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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2019, 07:48:25 am »
Great news!!!!  Glad for you on this . I know its been an experience.

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« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2019, 09:50:42 am »
Congrates! Its a good feeling and a relief, isnt it?
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2019, 10:54:00 am »
Any photos of the old air filter? I don't think you mentioned it anywhere in this thread.

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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2019, 01:34:48 pm »



WOW

What a difference!!!
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2019, 03:06:41 pm »
Any photos of the old air filter? I don't think you mentioned it anywhere in this thread.


I actually posted it Oct 27 in an appropriate thread :)  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13197.msg303081#msg303081   Somehow it slipped by ya...
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2019, 03:13:40 pm »
Thanks for all the congrats.  Trust me, I will never attempt it again.  I am still concerned that the coolant flush was only 2.5 qt and the final fill was also only 2.5 qt.   I wish I had measured what came out both times.

And now it is, believe it or not, snowing.  That will end and then be bitter cold and icy tonight and all tomorrow.  Thursday I might be able to slip in a short ride after work, but then it will rain for 5 days, all through the weekend and early next week :(  I want to ride it!!!
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2019, 03:15:27 pm »
I'm glad you got it all sorted!
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2019, 07:27:14 am »
Thanks for all the congrats.  Trust me, I will never attempt it again.  I am still concerned that the coolant flush was only 2.5 qt and the final fill was also only 2.5 qt.   I wish I had measured what came out both times.

And now it is, believe it or not, snowing.  That will end and then be bitter cold and icy tonight and all tomorrow.  Thursday I might be able to slip in a short ride after work, but then it will rain for 5 days, all through the weekend and early next week :(  I want to ride it!!!

You said that you filled and ran it with pure distilled water right? Then drained that and added the coolant. You may not have the correct % of coolant to water now.
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Re: First (and probably last) Valve Adjustment
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2019, 09:07:39 am »
I actually posted it Oct 27 in an appropriate thread :)  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13197.msg303081#msg303081   Somehow it slipped by ya...


It sure did slip by me, and you know I watch you like a hawk.  :popcorn:
 It must of been when I was off looking for all my cold weather gear in case hell froze over. :yikes:

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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2019, 03:31:25 pm »
You said that you filled and ran it with pure distilled water right? Then drained that and added the coolant. You may not have the correct % of coolant to water now.

That is possible.  But what else can I do?  I drained it, filled it with distilled water.  Ran it, feeding as much as it would take (ever) which was 2.5qt.  Drained it, filled it with premix.  Ran it, feeding as much as it would take (ever) which was 2.5qt.  I don't know where the missing 1 qt is.  Perhaps it was just retained somewhere that would not drain.  In which case, there is a 1 qt remnant of unknown mix of distilled water and premix that diluted the new premix.  From a freezing standpoint, it won't matter, since here it will never get below maybe 20F.  From an overheating standpoint, that shouldn't matter either, since water is better at heat transfer than premix.  From a corrosion standpoint- I don't know (at least I used distilled).

I asked my mechanic friend "if there is missing coolant in there, will it eventually replace what is missing from the overflow bottle?" And he said yes.  But after my 30 min test drive, the level didn't change.  And after several hours of cool-down, it still didn't change.  It is a mystery that I don't like.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2019, 05:03:11 pm »
That is possible.  But what else can I do?  I drained it, filled it with distilled water.  Ran it, feeding as much as it would take (ever) which was 2.5qt.  Drained it, filled it with premix.  Ran it, feeding as much as it would take (ever) which was 2.5qt.  I don't know where the missing 1 qt is.  Perhaps it was just retained somewhere that would not drain.  In which case, there is a 1 qt remnant of unknown mix of distilled water and premix that diluted the new premix.  From a freezing standpoint, it won't matter, since here it will never get below maybe 20F.  From an overheating standpoint, that shouldn't matter either, since water is better at heat transfer than premix.  From a corrosion standpoint- I don't know (at least I used distilled).

I asked my mechanic friend "if there is missing coolant in there, will it eventually replace what is missing from the overflow bottle?" And he said yes.  But after my 30 min test drive, the level didn't change.  And after several hours of cool-down, it still didn't change.  It is a mystery that I don't like.

don't sweat it man, it's good.. the 3.7 qt figure in the book is when the bike is manufactured, and completely dry..and includes the overflow tank;  residual liquid is retained all over the engine, radiator, oil cooler jacket, fill bottle (that is part of the actual liquid figure shown in the book, so that coolant reservoir 20 oz.  never gets seen.. but is noted as part of the total system fluid)... your bike will be fine, and protected...

I'll also note, that you need not worry about any "air bleeding" on the C14, as this system was designed to automatically do that for you, via a supply line from the w/p, which accomplishes the "purge"; just in case you were thinking there may be "air" trapped, like in the old C10 models..   which is good... so ya got that going for ya, as Karl Spackler would say "Gunga-La Gunga..."

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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2019, 05:28:02 pm »
don't sweat it man, it's good..

Thanks.  Just call me nervous.  I will go ahead and put on the last two panels and call it done.  Tomorrow it is supposed to warm up some, so I absolutely want to take it out for at least a bit.
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Re: First Valve Adjustment / TB Sync
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2019, 06:30:21 pm »
:'(
Just for clarity on these two posts, between these two above quoted valve jobs, Fred Harmon moved from 15 minutes from my house (Texas) to 8 hours from my house (Arkansas)  :'( :(:( :(
He is indeed now living in the Mountain Home Arkansas area.

OK, back to max's story....
Just for clarity....I will gladly ride an extra 8 hours to Arkansas from my home in Utah before I will ever put myself thru doing a valve adjust on this bike. Just saying. Life is too short!!
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Re: First (and probably last) Valve Adjustment
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2019, 06:47:28 pm »
some folks seem to have too much money, and time..... I really feel the whole job is quite painless, just takes a couple days.

I can't poop out $2k for a trip and repair, and when you add the expenses up; that would be about what it would cost. Gas, Hotels, repair bill, any "incidentals" that pop up in the week long venture.

but, I'm a "realist", and cheap.. and live on SSI... but I got tools.

I guess it's moot for me to say that all, having done the service myself.

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Re: First (and probably last) Valve Adjustment
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2019, 08:01:58 pm »
some folks seem to have too much money, and time..... I really feel the whole job is quite painless, just takes a couple days.

My broken engine mount bolt did extend the process quite a bit.  But with two of us working on it, I estimate around 30 man hours (including plugs, filters, oil, flush, etc).  Granted, it would be much easier/faster a second time, due to learning how it all works.  Following the manual is quite a chore- jumping from one section, to another, to another....  It would have been completely impossible had I not a very experienced mechanic with me.  So I wouldn't call it painless (and not just because it was killing my back and legs (his, too)).

For me, it not about money it was about wanting to know it was actually done correctly, within my control, and without any damage to anything.  But I am not kidding when I say I don't think I could go through that again.  And I really do caution people attempting this job to think carefully first.  It can take a LOT of time and there are a LOT of ways you can totally destroy the engine, plus it is very frustrating.
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