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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2020, 07:00:49 am »
If we're not all dead in several weeks, things should be starting to look up.

So, what you're saying is that if things don't get worse they'll get better?   :o
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2020, 08:26:29 am »
Yep...logic at it's best.
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2020, 08:29:54 am »
Corona viruses have been around forever. Look them up. There are books on them dating from 1996 and articles from even earlier. This one (Covid-19) is just one the latest variants and is a particularly nasty one due partly to it's long incubation period, and partly due to it's effect on human lungs. Chances are almost everyone on the planet has had a Corona virus disease at some point but in the media we only hear about the big ones like MERS (EMC/2012), SARS-CoV (2003), and now Covid-19. The Common Cold can be caused by certain Corona viruses, as well as by Rhino viruses and others.
Personally I think we should rename this one Covidiot-19 as it seems to have shown everyone just how idiotic many of our fellow humans are.


1960's actually.  We have plenty of idiots on our side in Florida playing while we all burn.  I think that they should put them in camps and not let them out of Florida for several weeks.  Possibly enlist the idiots to take care of the rest of us for free.  They don't realize that they can bring that sh*t back to us in the rest of the country.  Fn morons.   
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2020, 09:03:47 am »

1960's actually.  We have plenty of idiots on our side in Florida playing while we all burn.  I think that they should put them in camps and not let them out of Florida for several weeks.  Possibly enlist the idiots to take care of the rest of us for free.  They don't realize that they can bring that sh*t back to us in the rest of the country.  Fn morons.

They know they just don't care. Selfish assholes.

Plus, and you know how much I hate to bring politics into this, there's so much conflicting information coming from our leaders that some people don't know what to think.

Hell, just this morning in Illinois, we have politicians questioning our governor's decision to close down schools and restaurants/bars. These same politicians are questioning what the expert doctors are telling us. When asked directly why they would question what the experts are saying. Their answers all start out with the same words, "I'm not a doctor but..."   :o

What do all these politicians that I mentioned above have in common? They are all from the same party. Do I have to tell you which party that is? I'm sure that I don't...
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2020, 10:09:28 am »
As you hate to bring politics into this.....why do it?  Keep it in the Arena, please.  And prune out the politics stuff.
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2020, 02:31:23 pm »
It does not matter if it 'goes away' or not- the virus will 'burn itself out' in any event. Eventually enough people will have been infected and recovered, combined with fewer and fewer infect-able souls, that it can no longer spread. This is what happens to all major infections that turn into epidemics or pandemics- they just burn out. Sometimes, the burn- out is truly devastating, such as the bubonic plague but it always works. The other method is when there are not enough infections to produce sufficient numbers of infect- able people, such as polio, which always returns to a sufficiently non- immune population to cause another outbreak (polio was notorious for returning each summer for decades).

The only other way to end the infection rate increase is to cut the virus off with inoculation, again such as in the case of polio- polio is alive and well, more than ready to infect any number of hosts but because <almost> all of the potential hosts have been inoculated, the virus does not cause an epidemic. That said, we are now again seeing what I would call 'mini epidemics' in places such as Oregon where a significant (and too large to provide heard immunity) portion of the population has refused to inoculate.

It is all a numbers situation, or better yet, a mathematical curve situation. Which is why those in gov't are always talking about 'flattening the curve'; we cannot eliminate the disease but we can blunt the speed and percentage of the population that it impacts. And they are correct- flattening the bell curve is really all that can be done, and it will work IF we, as a society, work to force the infection to go in that direction. And at the moment, it looks like we might just make it and blunt the worst of this current virus although of course it is causing great economic / social impact along the way. But if we choose to do nothing, the virus will still cause great economic and social impact but leave all of us in a far worse position afterward. This virus is going to cause a very significant impact on our economy, the only choice we really have is if we want to have it end with a relatively intact society or one that has been devastated by it. We have seen all of this before, the best example being the "Spanish Flu" pandemic of 1918: some US cities were so decimated with this virus that the very fabric of society itself fell apart.

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I expect it will never go away.  It is likely to be similar to our existing flus and colds, just mutating and all over, all the time.  We just have to hope warm weather helps to control it, so it will be "seasonal" like flus and colds.  And that, eventually, we will have hit-or-miss annual vaccinations (like with the flu).  I expect also that we will like hold on to some "partial" immunity between mutations (again, like the flu).  I am actually surprised we haven't been hit with something like this sooner.

Viruses are really annoying (like mosquitoes).  Ironically, without them, we (humans) would not exist, since they were an important part of evolution (through evolutionary pressure, natural selection, and organism mutation).  We even have segments of virus DNA integrated into our human genome.  Still, I think we have reached a point that I wouldn't shed a tear if they all just disappeared.  Science might actually come up with a "total virus solution" at some point.  But I wouldn't hold my breath for that being in our lifetimes.
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2020, 02:17:15 am »
In lighter news, which is subjective, Prince Albert II Of Monaco Tests Positive For Coronavirus.

You can now rightfully assume that Prince Albert is in the can.

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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2020, 05:00:21 am »
In lighter news, which is subjective, Prince Albert II Of Monaco Tests Positive For Coronavirus.

You can now rightfully assume that Prince Albert is in the can.

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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2020, 08:57:18 am »
In lighter news, which is subjective, Prince Albert II Of Monaco Tests Positive For Coronavirus.
You can now rightfully assume that Prince Albert is in the can.
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2020, 12:11:45 pm »
In other news, moving toward the left in the I.Q. bell curve.....

Went to the liquor store today (with everyone else w/in a 30 mile radius apparently.....), and picked up a case of Corona Light for the Mrs. (she likes the occasional beer and will not drink anything but that brand and type). At the checkout, the cashier leans over and says to the beer 'Oh, someone is finally taking you home!'. ???? So I ask what that is about. ? She says no one will buy Corona beer because of the virus.  ?? I still do not get it? (sorry, logic gets in the way of my mental prowess sometimes) She says that people are saying Corona beer CAUSES the Corona virus. Ah, now I get it- people are really stupid!

FUBAR

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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2020, 02:09:48 pm »
Apparently people are considering memes as PSAs now...    :banghead:

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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2020, 05:59:52 pm »
Personally I consider Corona a 'trash' beer but for those that like it, I would think it should be on sale if it's not selling.
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2020, 07:04:42 am »
My wife and I risked it yesterday and went grocery shopping. Locally there's really only two stores, Super Walmart and Aldi.

Aldi is always the first stop and then whatever we can't get at Aldi we pick up at Wallys.

It was a fucking zoo!!!

We both wore medical masks and gloves. An overabundance of caution? Better safe that sorry. A few people in the stores also wore masks and we had several people ask us where we got our masks. I 'acquired' a box of medical grade masks several years ago at work. 

Lots of stuff was sold out but we did manage to get some TP at Aldi, the last package on the shelf. When we arrived at Aldi there weren't many people there but right after we arrived the place got flooded with folks. I heard later that there was a fake text going around that POTUS was going to shut down everything! I wonder if that prompted the rush? We managed to get just about everything we needed.

Then off to Wallys. Now that place was crazy! No bread, no flour, no sugar, they had TP but it was being rationed, no frozen fries, very little fresh meat or frozen veggies.

Never in my life did I imagine that I would see something like this in our country, never.    :'(
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2020, 07:47:45 am »
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Re: Corona virus.... the gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2020, 09:21:05 am »
The Governor (RI) just extended the normal 7 day wait to transfer a firearm to 30 days. Lots and lots of people trying to buy firearms and ammunition, wiping out local stock as well as creating havoc (or so they claim) at local P.D.'s processing the applications.

But the people that this is making really cranky are heavy 2A supporters in the first place, and we already have  said hardware. The push is now on for the November elections though to be honest, I do not know if it will really make much difference in such a 'blue' state anyway.

In other COVID news, people are progressively losing driving skills as this thing progresses. It is getting a bit scary just driving out there, never mind negotiating full parking lots and trying to find a parking space. The Corona virus has symptoms similar to the usual strains of flu but fear and panic induced by the Corona virus seems to inhibit brain cells from working....

:-(

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