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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2020, 08:28:15 pm »
Thanks Cliff!

I remember seeing that second photo, I thought at the time you had pried it open and found the corrosion (that is, taken something besides the tape off). I wish I could find your original post
I'm sure it had some descriptive details of your whole ordeal troubleshooting this.

 ..anyway..back to the OP..(Matt,.. remember him?)..

This one is a Yuasa which I thought was pretty decent. Other preferred batteries?

Thanks, Matt

I'm probably too late, but when I was researching for a replacement battery I decided I wanted the best non-Lithium
battery I could find. Since the original was 14 AH I was determined to get one the same and all the Yuasa's I could find
were only 12 AH even though most had a numeral 14 in their designation the specs said only 12 AH. I found one at a local Battery+ store
 that was 14 AH (Duracell brand?) but I was going to have to modify the plastic battery cover to get it to fit so I returned it and
 went to check the price on the factory original  Furukawa FTZ14-BS,12V 14AH at the local dealer and it was cheaper than the one at Battery plus.
It will cost a little more than all the Yuasa's that pop up in a search, but if you can find one, I think it's worth it.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2020, 06:32:56 am »
Thanks for posting this (or re- posting it)! Very interesting....  That looks like one- half of a connector that does not have the other half connected to it. ?

Very disappointing on a Japanese bike. The one thing Japanese mfg's have always commanded, at least IMO and IME, is wiring. What you show there is more typical of American wiring, unfortunately.

Again, thanks!

Brian
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2020, 07:48:02 am »
I ordered one of the batteries off Amazon that Maxtog linked to. It came in last night and I installed it this morning. I cleaned all the cable connections in the process. Bike fired right up like it is supposed to. I guess I will have to be a bit more careful about keeping it on a battery tender. I checked back and this battery was bought last year in March. It was the battery for my wife’s Boulevard that I had to replace back in April.
I better order a couple decent tenders for both bikes.

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2020, 08:13:45 am »
I ordered one of the batteries off Amazon that Maxtog linked to. It came in last night and I installed it this morning. I cleaned all the cable connections in the process. Bike fired right up like it is supposed to. I guess I will have to be a bit more careful about keeping it on a battery tender.

Batteries are frustrating because the companies change hands and the specs keep changing.  I don't think they are made as well as they used to be, on top of that.  So the "major" brands seem to be a potluck now in a market also flooded with "no name" brands.  All we have to go by are others' recommendations..... and by the time enough years have gone by to really know it was a good battery, you can't find it anymore, or it has changed.  Grrrrr.

Did the one you were sent also have the strange top that prevents the plastic retainer from mating properly?  Not a big whoop either way, just curious if that changed.

As for trickle chargers, I am using a Battery Tender Jr..  One of them failed after a few years and I bought another of the same type.  It does seem to work to help keep the battery in top condition.  I have a cord leave the garage through the wall and lays next to the Cycle Shell where the Concours lives.  I just plug it in every time I park it, regardless of when I plan to next ride (so it is just an automatic thing for me).  Not much of a hassle for the peace-of-mind it provides.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2020, 09:39:16 am »
I have an ‘09 so my battery top is held on with a rubber strap over the battery. The tops fit like it always has.

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2020, 10:34:57 am »
I have an ‘09 so my battery top is held on with a rubber strap over the battery. The tops fit like it always has.

For clarity's sake, although true that the Gen 1s have a different battery hold down system, there still should be a battery
cover under the strap at least as supplied by the factory. I only mention that as down the road some buying used gen 1 bikes may come here looking for information.

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..also for clarity...

 ..anyway..back to the OP..(Matt,.. remember him?)..


..I mistakenly referred to Matt as the OP, sorry about that. Matt was just an interested party, turns out that courtney985 was the OP and hasn't logged in since
the one post over a month ago. ...

and now as I go down the original post I see a spam link at the bottom, he really sold it this time. We've been had guys....but we showed him as we made it useful anyway.   :banana

I'd be willing to bet that if we searched we would find that exact text somewhere else on this forum or the other one and he just copied and pasted it and added his spam link at the bottom.

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2020, 10:56:21 am »
When I had this grounding trouble I was out of state, luckily I had no cranking problems because I rode it on home.

I do know of a 2009 with the same lighting issues I had & the same grounding block corrosion. I also had a COG member from MO call a couple weeks ago quizzing me about this. He has the same cranking & similar lighting issues as OP. He has not updated me on what he found as of yet.

Appears to be somewhat rare, but a few cases out there.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2020, 11:09:34 am »
Found it, spammer copied and posted from here (second paragraph): http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=21720.msg297678#msg297678

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2020, 12:49:04 pm »
and now as I go down the original post I see a spam link at the bottom, he really sold it this time. We've been had guys....but we showed him as we made it useful anyway.   :banana

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Yep, we made it a useful thread.  So many posts, impossible to remember.

Strange that anyone would bother to go to all the trouble, just to have a single hidden link.   More than a "bot" at work, since the post was slightly edited.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2020, 01:22:48 pm »
Make sure that the battery charger you're using is good for the type of battery it is such as AGM, lithium, or standard lead acid.  Using the wrong one can shorten a battery's life.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2020, 01:51:13 pm »
Make sure that the battery charger you're using is good for the type of battery it is such as AGM, lithium, or standard lead acid.  Using the wrong one can shorten a battery's life.

Well now that we have your attention, shouldn't you be removing that link in the OP's post or....is it harmless just sitting there?

..as for making use of a thread started wrongly.........about Battery tenders...after having a battery go bad even though it was on a BT Jr. with a green light on, I don't use those
any more, I've decided to use only the larger anti sulfating ones from OptiMate and Xtreme.

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2020, 01:54:10 pm »
I'm at my best whilst imbibing my favorite beer, or scotch, or whisky.  Not doing any of them at the moment but I'll see...


Update:  Got rid of it but it was a bit strange in that I couldn't modify it directly.  It was hidden.  Anyway it's gone now.  Had to edit one of Brian's posts as it was copied over when he quoted it.


Update2:  User has been dealt with.. :battle: :cannon: :shoot: :1DeadBanana
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2020, 03:40:45 pm »
I'm at my best whilst imbibing my favorite beer, or scotch, or whisky.  Not doing any of them at the moment but I'll see...


Update:  Got rid of it but it was a bit strange in that I couldn't modify it directly.  It was hidden.  Anyway it's gone now.  Had to edit one of Brian's posts as it was copied over when he quoted it.


Update2:  User has been dealt with.. :battle: :cannon: :shoot: :1DeadBanana

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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2020, 04:44:45 pm »
Sorry, too graphic.
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Re: Bike is dead
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2020, 05:18:41 pm »
Whatdidyado, make him ride that cruz- ah? Nah, that is a fate too cruel even for spammers.....

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