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Offline Jeremy Mitchell

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2011, 07:09:06 pm »
I stand corrected, I thought the base price for the GT was between 20 and $21,000.  I guess most dealer are probably jacking the price up since people keep buying them.
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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 07:13:55 pm »
It isn't the dealers, it is the factory. One method BMW uses to alter the price is to attach a list of options to the bike. This alters the price quite substantially between "list" and actual costs. The K1300GT had a list price of something like $20K but you would not find one for anywhere near that price as all models had at least some options present and some had all options. It is of course common practice on all autos but it is not common on motorcycles outside of BMWs.

It makes it tough to compare prices because while Japanese bikes start at MSRP and work their way down, BMWs start at 'list' price and work their way up.

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I stand corrected, I thought the base price for the GT was between 20 and $21,000.  I guess most dealer are probably jacking the price up since people keep buying them.
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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2011, 09:56:53 pm »
I do not believe you could purchase a new BMW 1600 for even close to $20,000 unless you brought two wolves and a pistol....  ;)

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Actually, I think all you can do right now is pay a sizable pile of money to stand in line and wait for one.

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2011, 09:06:45 am »
Max's is showing quite a few in stock, in choice of type (GT or GTL). They have them in locations in NH, NY and CT. So you could bring a pile of money in right now and ride one home.... but it would take more than a 'sizable pile', it would take a 'gigantic pile' (technical terms, all in English standard measurement systems).

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2011, 09:10:26 am »
Max's is showing quite a few in stock, in choice of type (GT or GTL). They have them in locations in NH, NY and CT. So you could bring a pile of money in right now and ride one home.... but it would take more than a 'sizable pile', it would take a 'gigantic pile' (technical terms, all in English standard measurement systems).

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What would that be in the metric world..................... a $h1t ton?
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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2011, 11:51:40 am »
Misleading title to this thread IMHO. Comparing a $25K w/ options bike to one that costs $10K less (and can be purchased for thousands less than SRP) is equivalent to saying that a Kobe beef steak is better than a baloney sandwich.

Well duh.

If the Concours didn't exist, few if any of us would be at the BMW dealer placing orders. I can't afford one and even if I could, not so sure I'd want one. No BMW dealer anyplace close by and even if there was, their required maintenance schedule is a major put-off to me.

Any comparison that ignores price is inherently worthless.

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2011, 12:14:28 pm »
Misleading title to this thread IMHO. Comparing a $25K w/ options bike to one that costs $10K less (and can be purchased for thousands less than SRP) is equivalent to saying that a Kobe beef steak is better than a baloney sandwich.

Well duh.

If the Concours didn't exist, few if any of us would be at the BMW dealer placing orders. I can't afford one and even if I could, not so sure I'd want one. No BMW dealer anyplace close by and even if there was, their required maintenance schedule is a major put-off to me.

Any comparison that ignores price is inherently worthless.


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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2011, 12:53:33 pm »
The only thing it has that I wish my C14 had is cruise control.


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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2011, 01:02:09 pm »
Best bike lists are for idiots.  Can anyone here say they ever bought a bike because some douche magazine staffer said it was the best?

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2011, 01:10:11 pm »
Best bike lists are for idiots.  Can anyone here say they ever bought a bike because some douche magazine staffer said it was the best?

Nope, I choose my bikes by playing rock, paper, scissors with my kids.  If paper could cover scissors I would be riding a Sportster 883, thank God that didn't happen.   ;D
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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2011, 04:53:12 pm »
I hope that any of the major companies could design a new bike that would be better than something they were aiming at. If not, something would be wrong.  I dont quite understand the need for a 6 cylinder anymore than I did when the original Honda cbx was released. 



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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2011, 05:52:57 pm »
Best bike lists are for idiots.  Can anyone here say they ever bought a bike because some douche magazine staffer said it was the best?

Great point!  If money was no objects, i will have from scooters to can-am.  I don't give a hola hoop to what it is.
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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2011, 07:16:10 am »
Well, maybe a $h1t <metric> ton. The term ton is an English standard measurement based on pounds.  ;D

But I am sure that if you went to a foreign country and slipped a credit card across the counter while pointing to a K1600GT, the person on the other side would quickly do the calculation for you. At no additional charge....  ;)

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2011, 09:59:22 am »
Nope, I choose my bikes by playing rock, paper, scissors with my kids.  If paper could cover scissors I would be riding a Sportster 883, thank God that didn't happen.   ;D

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Re: 2011 - C14 "dethroned" and BMW 1600GT steps in its place
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2011, 07:46:41 am »
I was talking to a fellow rider last week.  He was telling me that some of the new BMW bikes are having fuel sensor issues.  The guys in the cooler climes aren't seeing the issue, but down south (Florida, etc.) the high heat along with the high humidity are wreaking havoc with the EFI computers, so a lot of bikes are needing to go into the shop.  From what he told me, the sensor/programming that is causing the issue doesn't have a good fix yet.

Doing a quick google search turned up this thread:
http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62685

I don't know if the newest bikes have this issue.

So it sounds like there is a workaround.  Still, you'd expect better from the BMW engineers, unless of course their goal is to keep the BMW bike shops busy...

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