Author Topic: Yuck- here come the Harley's!  (Read 19537 times)

Offline AZBiker

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
  • Country: us
    • My photos
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2011, 04:59:59 pm »
I grew up riding ironhead Sporters and airhead Beemers. The C14 is the first "modern" fuel injected watercooled bike I've owned. Still tinker with the airheads. Been thinking about building another sporty when I can stand another project.

Rigid-mount evos make great cafe racer projects.

They can be lightened up to about 450lbs pretty cheaply.

I miss my cheap-and-easy-to-maintain bike that doesn't cost $400 every time it falls over.

But I've got what I've got and I'm not in the financial position to get anything else.  Otherwise I might be tempted to fill the gastank up with Tannerite and take it out to the desert, and film what happens when a 7.62x54R projectile meets a gastank filled with Tannerite.
rubber side down,

Derek
93 Cali black & red

Offline gPink

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5639
  • Country: us
  • MMVIII C XIV
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2011, 05:04:34 pm »
Don't get me wrong. I love the 14. But as you say cheap and easy has a lot going for it. ;)
Thank God for good men willing to do extreme violence.

Offline MiniCog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: 00
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2011, 09:31:20 pm »
No, those were modified stock headpipes with slip-ons.  On the rigid XLs, the stockers with slip-ons can be made to flow better than anything except for the supertrapp 2-2 high pipes.
Just about any cruiser (of any make) reaps hp benefits from aftermarket pipes because they simply don't have the volume to get good flow and still meet noise regs.
The one I can think of off the top of my head that doesn't is the Road Star Warrior, which instead has an ugly garbage can hanging off the right side.
Simple physics--if you want flow but not noise, you need volume.  High flow, low volume=lots of noise.

Don't you run modified stock exhaust on your bikes?

Did you modify your baffles to get more power?
Or did you have your mechanic do it because he said it would sound cool?

I run stock pipes on my streetbike.  So...  No.  No modified stock pipes.   :-\

I run a 44mm baffle in the XR650R because the stock intake(A sliver in the airbox...), tiny carb jets and tiny baffle(10mm) choke the bike up and keeps it from making 56 HP rather than low 40's...  Google "Uncorked XR650R" and you'll see why I run a "modified stock" exhaust (It's actually just a bigger baffle that you order from Honda themselves).  So that's borderline "modified stock" exhaust.  But it's just a replaced baffle.  Not a "modified baffle."

I took the end baffle out of the KLX because it has two baffles in it, and 2 aren't necessary.  It's still quieter than the XR, but runs cooler than it did before.  So that's not really much of a modification (unless you count taking off 3 screws and a piece of metal).

I've never taken a bike to a mechanic except when I blew the top end in my 85 when I was 11, so don't assume I'm like every other retard out there that only listens to what "my mechanic" says.  I AM my own mechanic.

I don't know you got defensive about a simple remark, I mean jeez man.  I was just being cheeky, I'm pretty sure 99% of the guys that are familiar with me would know that.


Anyways, you obviously took a fragmented sentence/cheeky joke and didn't like it, but you should chill, I didn't even MENTION you or whatever the pipes you're talking about.  I didn't even see anything about
  modified stock headpipes with slip-ons.  On the rigid XLs, the stockers with slip-ons can be made to flow better than anything except for the supertrapp 2-2 high pipes.

Sometimes, I get fun poked at me because I'm 17 and don't have a Connie, but I don't get defensive about it.  You should try it sometime.  This is a motorcycle forum (A Kawasaki Concours forum, actually), so people are going to be cheeky and funny with each other because 99% of people I've met on a Concours are funny and witty and overall pretty cool people to be around and joke with. 
(Site trot: Anyone know what happened to the original forum and members?  I kinda miss it and the guys like Reverend and Big Joe...   :'( )

I didn't even mention you in my post.  Or your pipes.  You quoted me, you can go ahead and re-read it, you won't see "AZBiker" in said post, anywhere.
I never said I dislike Harleys.  I just dislike the ridiculous people that put on deaf-inducing pipes and claim that they're louder, therefore, they have more power than any other bike that is quieter.  And the "Culture" that a good 50%(or better) of those guys fall into.  I've met cool people on cruisers, but I've met more idiots than coll guys thta don't look at my motorcycle preference and shun me for it.   Notice again, I said "ridiculous people," not "AZBiker." 

As TXIN said:
I like motorcycles.  ;D

I'm just getting it straight with you, not pick an argument or what have you.  I never mentioned you in my post.  But you mentioned me in your reply.  And I still can't fathom why there was a reply in the first place.   ???
Past: XR650R, 250 Ninjette.
Present: None...
Next: C-14, '08-09 Speed Triple, and/or Sprint GT.

Offline AZBiker

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
  • Country: us
    • My photos
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2011, 10:12:18 pm »
So you did the same thing to your XR that most guys do to their H-Ds because it's the cheapest power you're ever going to make.    The exhaust packaging on dirtbikes vs. cruisers are actually very similar--they both suffer from a lack of silencer volume and respond well to aftermarket modifications.

The dyno-geeks on the XL-list have the increase at around 10hp for stage 1 mods--that's just intake, jetting and exhaust.

The 38hp comment was talking about my XLH. 

So your 36hp comment was about which bike...
rubber side down,

Derek
93 Cali black & red

Offline TXIN

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 44
  • Country: us
  • H-Minus
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2011, 10:18:52 pm »
I think part of it (the reason I try to stay out of most of these threads) is that so much of it doesn't come across as good-natured ribbing. I don't see many threads here saying "Oh gosh, I just ran into this idiot on a sport bike" or "man those cruiser guys are crazy". Few people talk about Honda people or Yamaha people or any other brand than Harley. It's Harley Idiots and Harley Pirates and Dumb-A$$es on Harleys and it gets old after a while.

Not excusing anything, and he may not even feel the same way, but it's not like this is a Concours forum that makes fun of people that ride anything that isn't a Concours. We apparently only hate Harley riders.
Squeee!

Offline MiniCog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: 00
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2011, 10:45:23 pm »
So you did the same thing to your XR that most guys do to their H-Ds because it's the cheapest power you're ever going to make.    The exhaust packaging on dirtbikes vs. cruisers are actually very similar--they both suffer from a lack of silencer volume and respond well to aftermarket modifications.

The dyno-geeks on the XL-list have the increase at around 10hp for stage 1 mods--that's just intake, jetting and exhaust.

The 38hp comment was talking about my XLH. 

So your 36hp comment was about which bike...

Yes, I understand that.  I never denied it, now did I?

That's an XL, not an XR...  Look up a real dyno for an XR650R (The R is important).  It jumps from 40ish to 54-56 with stage 1.  Trust me on that.  I have an XR650R, not XL650, not XR650L.

I never said your bike.  That's an assumption.  Made by you.  Congratulations.

It appears that all you want to do is start ****.  You're arguing with a 17 year old for Christ's sake.  I'm not going to argue with you, I have better things to do with my time other than argue on the internet.  So far you are the first person I have yet to like on this forum other than someone that (Thank God) was banned before it was transitioned to zggtr.org.

Don't expect a reply from me after this.


We don't hate Harley Riders, I even said I've mt some cool Harley riders.  It's the people that fall in the trap of "If you buy all this you're now a legitimate biker because it all says Harley," those idiots I do not like.  Even the loud idiots on Yamaha's, Honda's, Kawasaki's and Suzuki's that want to be Harley "bikers."   
Past: XR650R, 250 Ninjette.
Present: None...
Next: C-14, '08-09 Speed Triple, and/or Sprint GT.

Offline AZBiker

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
  • Country: us
    • My photos
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #86 on: October 18, 2011, 12:58:37 am »

We don't hate Harley Riders, I even said I've mt some cool Harley riders.  It's the people that fall in the trap of "If you buy all this you're now a legitimate biker because it all says Harley," those idiots I do not like.  Even the loud idiots on Yamaha's, Honda's, Kawasaki's and Suzuki's that want to be Harley "bikers."   

Who is this "we?"   ;D

You don't think there are poseurs on sportbikes?
Look at the chicken strips, they tell the true story.  Tons of people that will drop the hammer on straights, but give them a twisty canyon rode and they act like they're on a VW trike.
All the while lookin' like Vale' Rossi, but riding like Sophia Rossi.
I bet you've even seen some of them on dirtbikes--every piece of aftermarket bling in the world and replica gear, and they're looking like Bubba Stewart, but riding like Martha Stewart.
Same goes in the adv world--guys with GSs and Rallye gear head-to-toe looking like they're ready to go around the world and they won't ride off the pavement.

But you know what?  THEY are the reason that we still have brick-and-mortar bike shops.
The number of real enthusiasts is minuscule compared to the recreational unskilled poseurs.
Always has been, always will be.
Just because I can ride faster than someone else, or farther than someone else doesn't make me a better person than they are.
And it certainly doesn't justify putting them down.
I don't go into every distance riding thread I can and put down someone's 500 mile ride because I've done 1100+ in one day on a 50hp bike with no fairing.  To me, 500mi is a nice leisurely ride on the bike.

This thread has mainly been about elitism and ignorance, with katata1100 and DannyL leading the charge.
rubber side down,

Derek
93 Cali black & red

Offline MiniCog

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: 00
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2011, 01:04:01 am »
Hahaha, that part of the post wasn't even meant for you...  How about you read the post above mine?   ;D

Like I said, no reply to your stupidity.  Have fun with yourself buddy.   I'll keep on a watchin'.  :popcorn:
Past: XR650R, 250 Ninjette.
Present: None...
Next: C-14, '08-09 Speed Triple, and/or Sprint GT.

Son of Pappy

  • Guest
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2011, 01:13:50 am »
Hey, AZ, have you stopped beating your wife and kids?  Maybe this Forum aint for you.

Offline AZBiker

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 168
  • Country: us
    • My photos
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2011, 01:18:55 am »
Hey, AZ, have you stopped beating your wife and kids?  Maybe this Forum aint for you.

Not married, but if you would like to accuse me of beating my child to my face, then come on down.
rubber side down,

Derek
93 Cali black & red

Son of Pappy

  • Guest
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2011, 01:23:09 am »
Not married, but if you would like to accuse me of beating my child to my face, then come on down.
I earned that.  Wrong way to make a point.

Offline VirginiaJim

  • Administrator
  • Elite Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11019
  • Country: england
  • I've forgotten more than I'll ever know...
    • Kawasaki 1400GTR
Re: Yuck- here come the Harley's!
« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2011, 04:36:00 am »
Ok, I see this that this thread has run it's course....


"LOCTITE┬«"  The original thread locker...  #11  2020 Indian Roadmaster, ABS, Cruise control, heated grips and seats 46 Monitoring with cutting edge technology U.N.I.T is Back! 2008 C14 Moved on to a new home, 2016 RM traded in.