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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3390 on: May 13, 2020, 07:09:50 am »
Earworms - you know, those songs/melodies that run through your head at all hours of the day and night. No, I'm not talking about the Star Trek kind of ear worm.

As a musician, I am cursed with them. But that curse isn't necessarily unpleasant.

I'm not a musician but I'm certainly a music lover and music is always playing around me in one way or another.

I know what you mean about the ear worm! I wake up every day with an ear worm. Sometimes it's a song I heard the day before and sometimes it's totally out of the blue. This morning it's Paul Young - Come Back and Stay. 

An oldie but a goodie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeeJhEpeUfc
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3391 on: May 13, 2020, 08:25:40 am »
For those struggling with the Star Trek themes try this for an ear-worm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3392 on: May 17, 2020, 09:49:19 am »
I've banned people for less, Boomer....LOL
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3393 on: May 18, 2020, 03:59:46 am »
I've banned people for less, Boomer....LOL
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3394 on: July 27, 2020, 05:17:27 pm »
For some reason, the past 4 months or so I have this ear-worm......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4jf6rtyuw

And I like this more recent version at least as much if not better..... just got to get past youtube ad first, but IMHO worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxmtQvrWUps
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3395 on: July 27, 2020, 05:55:10 pm »
Both excellent!
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3396 on: July 27, 2020, 07:22:58 pm »
Thanks!  Hope all enjoy.  It's a fun song to be crazy to????   8)
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3397 on: August 27, 2020, 01:21:07 pm »
Been pretty dead around here so.....

I think most people are familiar with the battle and results of the HMS Hood and the German ship Bismark. But the other ships in the fight seem to have been forgotten entirely. They were: The HMS Prince of Wales, a battleship accompanying the Hood, and the Prinz Eugen, a heavy cruiser sailing with the Bismark.

The Prince of Wales survived the engagement with the Bismark only to be sunk by Japanese air attack the following year in the Pacific. The Prinz Eugen has a more unusual story: she was sunk by atomic weapons which is odd because no atomic weapons were ever used in Europe, and the Prinz Eugen was not in Japan in 1945.

In a convoluted series of events, the Prinz Eugen survived the war (one of only two large German warships to do so) as an operational and functioning warship and was turned over to the British at the end of the way. In turn, the British gave her to the US as a war prize sometime later. She was actually made part of the US navy for a time, being renamed the USS Prinz Eugen. Her advanced radar and fire direction control systems were studied in great detail and then the ship was assigned to Operation Crossroads, the first post- war atomic weapons testing done by the US. She was towed to the Bikini Atoll and exposed to the atomic tests named Able and Baker (obviously the first two tests). While she actually survived the atomic weapons, more or less intact, she was so radioactive that she was abandoned after being moved to the Kwajalein Atoll. After developing a small hull leak, the ship continued to deteriorate as repairing her was impossible, again due to the high radiation from the ship. Eventually, she capsized and sank, leaving a good portion of the hull above the water line.

But that was not the end of her story: in 1974 the hull began leaking oil and there was concern that a storm could cause the fuel tanks to empty creating a major oil spill. Holes were cut in her hull and almost one million liters of fuel were pumped out in an operation ending in 2018. Her hull was again sealed and she rests in the same spot she sunk in back in 1946, with part of her hull visible still.

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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3398 on: August 27, 2020, 05:48:21 pm »
Does the aquatic life to live in that area glow?
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3399 on: August 27, 2020, 07:10:08 pm »
Do not know about the ship today. Bikini atoll is so 'hot' that it was evacuated (again) in the 1980's due to excessive radioactive materials.

If one is going to 'make the neutrons dance, one must live with the results. There have been some incidents far worse than merely contaminating ships close to atomic test sites. That could be a topic for yet another post about nothing at all....

Just to be clear: I am not opposed to nuclear power or even nuclear weapons. And I am most certainly not making any kind of statement in this or the last post. But I am opposed to idiots using either one, and unfortunately even the able and prepared people sometimes have nuclear devices get away from them. There is no excuse for Chernobyl but fukushima daiichi is a very different story. Not sure if anyone made any serious errors immediately after the diesel generators were flooded or not but that was a very well prepared installation and operation that was simply overwhelmed by natural events on a scale unexpected.

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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3401 on: August 28, 2020, 08:45:39 am »
Beats me? I do not know how long steel can stay radioactive? Certainly most or all of the radioactive materials that would have been on the ship are gone as you say and I <suspect> that is the bulk of radioactive contamination, the materials liberated in the blast actually coating things.

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Interesting  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TihHZAaop2o

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Kwajalein/@8.7527949,167.6835561,465m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x65aeba1bdf4fcbd9:0xa428045186f42c97!8m2!3d8.7226625!4d167.7351935

Not going to be very radioactive after being washed by the sea for the last 74 years.
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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3402 on: August 28, 2020, 03:40:17 pm »
And speaking of the Bikini Atoll.....

So once the US learned how to make atomic weapons, and especially atomic weapon fuel (the really hard part), the only thing left was to make them 'better'. This includes making them smaller in size / weight, larger in output and if possible, cleaner.

The first efforts were to refine the relatively straight- forward weapons developed during WWII of course. But before too long it was time to take the next step and move from fission (where very heavy elements are split into two or more lighter elements) to fusion (where two light elements are fused into one single, heavier element). The theory was developed at the same time the first atomic weapons were being designed but it was considered the proverbial bridge too far and was basically ignored for a few years. But the key person in the development of 'Da Zuper' as Edward Teller called it (he was from Hungary and spoke with a significant accent in English). Together Edward Teller and Adam Ulam conjectured up the Teller- Ulam design for a hydrogen fusion weapon. The first hydrogen or thermonuclear bomb was absolutely huge in size and weight, and used a form of hydrogen called deuterium in liquid form. It was only liquid because it was kept extremely cold. This thing was gigantic and required all kinds of external hardware to allow it to work; in short, it was simply not practical as any kind of deliverable weapon. But it did fuse and that was more than enough at the time. Work continued with the goal of making thermonuclear weapons portable; this meant not requiring any external support equipment as well as reducing the overall size and weight (the first ones were truly massive) and that entailed using different fuels so that the products could be carried in airplanes.

Eventually, a test of a new fusion weapon that was self- contained and unsupported by external devices was built and tested starting with a test- firing of Castle- Bravo, again at the Bikini Atoll. It worked great..... kind of. Mostly. Well, actually a little too good. The designers used the third element, Lithium, as the fuel to allow the bomb to be made with relatively stable parts that would not require extreme cold, extreme pressure or anything else. Now Lithium is usually found in two forms, Lithium 6 and Lithium 7, the difference being L-7 has an additional neutron over L-6. Lithium 6 is fusible while Lithium 7 is not, or so it was thought. So the fusion fuel was a little under 40% L-6 with the balance of the Lithium being -7, an 'inert' type.

As usual, targets were set up, markers placed where the weapon's limits would be, very accurate estimates of output, radiation and so forth calculated and finally someone too Wiley Coyote's job and lit the fuse on the damned thing. It was supposed to have a yield of 6 megatons of TNT, relatively huge compared to earlier fission weapons. But what the scientists did not yet know was that L-7 spits a neutron (technical term) when heated sufficiently and BECOMES Lithium 6. Yep, more fuel. So the yield was not the expected 6 megatons of TNT but 15 megatons of TNT. All the calculations as to yield, damage radius and radiation output were off- way, way off. The radiation swept all the way around Earth eventually and poisoned quite a few people and a vast section of the Pacific and islands there. It also literally vaporized a significant area of the Bikini Atoll, and the resulting crater can be seen to this day. Yep, them managed to leave a divot in the planet we live on. As a result of the Castle Bravo test, the Atoll had to be evacuated of its native population and remains uninhabited, at least continuously, to this day. Opps! This remains the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated by the US, and current nuclear testing bans pretty much guarantee that it will remain the largest.

Of course the Soviets figured out how to make both fission and fusion weapons too. Well, if not figured out, then stolen but at any rate, they eventually had both. US weapons testing reached its heyday (was it really a heyday?) in the 1950's, with the Castle Bravo test being in 1954. The Soviets would plow ahead and eventually design and build a three- stage nuclear device (the US's were all two stage) that they called the Tsar Bomba, or King Bomb. And it really was- dropped from a plane just to prove it was deliverable, it had a nominal yield of 50 megatons of TNT. Detonated above an island in the far north of the Soviet Union in 1961, scientists the world over watched the shock wave circle the Earth three times. If it was not obvious before, this was clear the symbol for M.A.D. or mutually assured destruction in the event of any nuclear exchange by the super powers. Theoretically, one side could 'win' but only at the expense of the reality of both sides losing; no nation would have survived a full- on delivery of our combined stocks of nuclear weapons. And I guess in a sort of left- handed way it worked as there have not been any major wars since WWII.

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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3403 on: August 28, 2020, 03:44:34 pm »
And to go along with the last post:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-releases-1961-footage-nuclear-165719017.html

Tsar Bomba, as filmed by the people who built and deployed it.

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Re: A thread about nothing at all....
« Reply #3404 on: September 01, 2020, 02:19:46 pm »

He thought his speech was poorly received and did not make a good impression on the audience. There was only a smattering of applause not only because, he believed, it was not well received but also because it was so short. While the main speaker for that event, a renowned orator named Edward Everett had spoken for two full hours, his remarks barely lasted three minutes; even his invitation to speak at all was something of an afterthought.

Other sources felt it was a poor oration as well, with one newspaper opining: “We pass over the silly remarks ….” Oramel Barrett wrote in his newspaper. “For the credit of the nation, we are willing that the veil of oblivion shall be dropped over them and that they shall no more be repeated or thought of.”  Chicago Times printed “The cheek of every American must tingle with shame as he reads the silly flat dishwatery utterances…..”

In fact, the author of the speech himself stated in that very speech “The world will little note nor long remember what was said here….”.
All of this proved to be false and the speech would soon be famous and a little later accepted as one of the greatest pieces of oration in the history of English. The author and speaker, a man with relatively modest formal education and coming from the very bottom of society, would eventually gain lasting notoriety for his speeches and this one would be seen as among his best.
The author and speaker was Abraham Lincoln of course, and his ‘few remarks’ would become known as the Gettysburg Address. Accounts vary and there is no agreed- upon version of the speech that is known to be the actual version delivered in Pennsylvania that day but all of the different versions are close enough to allow us to appreciate it, at least in my opinion.

Delivered Thursday, 19 November, 1863 at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania

[this is the last known version to be written by Lincoln, and the only one A. Lincoln signed that survives]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate—we can not consecrate—we can not hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Abraham Lincoln

In a letter written to Lincoln the following day, E. Everett sums up his own thoughts on Lincoln’s speech: "I should be glad if I could flatter myself that I came as near to the central idea of the occasion, in two hours, as you did in two minutes." Lincoln replied that he was glad to know the speech was not a "total failure".

Not a total failure indeed.....
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