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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2011, 09:33:05 am »
Thanks for all the info TT, I like how you did the silver plastic parts in black, you should powdercoat the wheels in black too, I be that would look pretty sick!  8)
 
Nice bike bro.  :chugbeer:

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2011, 09:41:23 am »
Thanks for all the info TT, I like how you did the silver plastic parts in black, you should powdercoat the wheels in black too, I be that would look pretty sick!  8)
 
Nice bike bro.  :chugbeer:

thx,
Yea that is my winter project on the powdercoat. Have to do the rearsets, pass pegs and wheels. but the big kicker is gonna be powdercoating that swingarm. Gonna have to tear that whole bike apart to get it done. It will probably end up forcing me to order the black faring pieces in the end. Thats when the panels become available through honda in the states. I aint paying shipping from europe.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2011, 05:43:54 pm »
So I went and rode a new leftover 2010 model today at my local dealer.  :)
 
What I can say is I LOVE the brakes, very nice IMO! The bike felt nice, great V4 power, especially the way it kicks in at mid range like a little turbo boost around 7k rpm. The narrowness of the bike was a good feel for a smaller guy like me, almost felt like a 750 sized bike after being on my Connie. Overall I liked the bike but I don't think I could do long distances on it like a Connie, there's not much in terms of protection or comfort, I could find ways to easily dump $10k into it but at that point you might as well buy a Connie, it could be a fun replacement for a liter sport bike and just use it for day trips and weekend fun. Oh, and by the way that stock pipe is absolutley hideous, what the hey was Honda thinking?  :o
 
I'm glad they let me ride it though, made for a fun lunch time!  8) 
I just wish it had heated grips, temps were mid 40's and my hands got pretty cold quick.  :(
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2011, 09:07:37 pm »
I actually bought a 2010 VFR in June, but actually didn't care for it as much as my 2003 VFR. Actually wish I had kept my 2003. Don't get me wrong the 1200 engine just flat out pulls, but just had too many vibrations for me. Also had a power commander and 2 bros pipe, and sounded pretty good, but the range absolutely sucked! Gas light came on around 135miles. Like someone else stated, the brakes were stellar, and the handling was a great, but absolutely hated the 1st & 2nd gear restrictions. Was down right dangerous. And why does the exhaust need a damn valve to restrict exhaust flow, only to open up at 5000rpm....unnecessary! Yes there is a fix to the 1st & 2nd gear restrictions, and yes you can take out that exhaust cable, or swap out exhaust all together for an aftermarket one, but for me, along with the puny tank size, this is unacceptable, especially from a company like Honda. I'll take my old 800 over the 1200 any day. Needless to say, I don't own the 1200 anymore...just Connie  ;D

The new 2012 ZX-14R has got my attention now.
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 03:18:10 am »
The fuel range would definitely be a problem for me too if I was going long distance. Not a huge issue for me but I could see how it could be a problem for someone.

The 1st 2nd restriction is definitely a fail by Honda. The best guess I have of why Honda did it is that it is some form of cheap a$$ traction control. I don't see why motorcycle companies make the fast bikes then try to dumb them down to save us from ourselves. The derestriction is a workaround and yes it does spin that rear up pretty good off a start derestricted but I wish Honda would have left it as my problem to deal with in regards to the tire spin and not theirs.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2011, 01:14:48 am »
Is the device on the VFR like the timing retard on the Suzuki SV1k & Busa?
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2011, 08:20:37 am »
Is the device on the VFR like the timing retard on the Suzuki SV1k & Busa?
I don't believe so.

My understanding was that the VFR1200 had a different fueling map for 1st & 2nd gear. The fix was to wire 1st & 2nd to 3rd (or any of the higher gears) at the gear position sensor wire harness. Only problem was you will get false readings for 1st & 2nd gear on the dash. It seemed like a pretty straight forward fix, but I never did it on mine. Those who did it on the VFR forum swear by it tho.
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2011, 08:21:35 am »
Is the device on the VFR like the timing retard on the Suzuki SV1k & Busa?

I think it has something to do with the mixture. It has 2 separate ECU settings that are completely independent of each other. 1&2 and 3-6. 3-6 can be adjusted with a power commander but it does nothing to affect 1&2. Since the bike has an auto version too, the gear selector dictates the fuel air mix. Basically the derestriction is tricking the bike to think that it is running in any 3-6 gear and completely bypassing the 1&2 mapping altogether.

The reason I think that it has something to do with leaning out the bike is due to how pingy the bike is in 1st and 2nd without the derestrict.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 08:24:41 am »
I don't believe so.

My understanding was that the VFR1200 had a different fueling map for 1st & 2nd gear. The fix was to wire 1st & 2nd to 3rd (or any of the higher gears) at the gear position sensor wire harness. Only problem was you will get false readings for 1st & 2nd gear on the dash. It seemed like a pretty straight forward fix, but I never did it on mine. Those who did it on the VFR forum swear by it tho.

Exactly right. And yes it makes it into a whole different bike at low speeds and off the line. It just sucks that you have to make the bike into the bike it should have been from the factory.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2011, 10:58:40 pm »
Ok so honda just came out with the new 2012 on their site. They got rid of the 1st/2nd restriction and gave it true traction control. They also added a trip computer, more fuel capacity and made the seat softer.

 But damn.... I dont know who picked the color. I guess Honda had some extra blue paint lying around...
It doesnt look super bad but what is their deal against having a black bike in the states. Hell. I'd even take the silver or white they have in europe.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2011, 11:13:47 pm »
Hmmm... that pic looks almost cartoon like, wonder how it looks live?
 
Too bad they left the exhaust the same...  :battle:

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2011, 12:00:58 am »
Hmmm... that pic looks almost cartoon like, wonder how it looks live?
 
Too bad they left the exhaust the same...  :battle:

Don't pretend that you wouldn't have the stock exhaust stripped off at the dealer before you rode home.
Keeping the economy going, one tank of fuel and two tires at a time.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2011, 12:13:59 am »
Supposedly, they have 2 other colors coming out for the dct version though I havent seen them up on honda usa website yet.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2011, 10:09:57 am »
Don't pretend that you wouldn't have the stock exhaust stripped off at the dealer before you rode home.

To true Jeremy, too true indeed...  8)

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2011, 10:12:24 am »
Supposedly, they have 2 other colors coming out for the dct version though I havent seen them up on honda usa website yet.


I like the black but that martini olive green looks pretty cool too, even better if the wheels were powdercoated black...  8)

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2011, 10:28:55 am »
U mean to tell me honda increased the fuel capacity from 4.9 to 5gal?? Wow, good job Honda, that ought to get ya another mile or two! I don't understand manufacturers thinking when they have these tiny ass gas tanks?? I think the concours should have a larger tank than 5.8 gal, but it's not bad. The one thing I do like about Hondas ST1300, is its 7.7 gal tank, good for around 300 miles.
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2012, 11:17:36 am »
2010 new priced at $11,500 in New Hampshire ++ out the door is still under $12,000. Looked pretty cheap.

Joel from Maine.

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2012, 12:15:36 pm »
U mean to tell me honda increased the fuel capacity from 4.9 to 5gal?? Wow, good job Honda, that ought to get ya another mile or two! I don't understand manufacturers thinking when they have these tiny ass gas tanks?? I think the concours should have a larger tank than 5.8 gal, but it's not bad. The one thing I do like about Hondas ST1300, is its 7.7 gal tank, good for around 300 miles.

LOL
5 gals is tiny ass but 5.8 is not bad.
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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2012, 07:06:17 pm »
2010 new priced at $11,500 in New Hampshire ++ out the door is still under $12,000. Looked pretty cheap.

The one local to me with only 30 miles on it (put on it by me...  ;D ) I can get for $10.5 OTD, it's very tempting...  :-\

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Re: 2012 VFR1200?
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2012, 06:06:25 am »

The one local to me with only 30 miles on it (put on it by me...  ;D ) I can get for $10.5 OTD, it's very tempting...  :-\

Just think of how much farkle transition it would take.  That would keep you busy for a couple weeks.
Keeping the economy going, one tank of fuel and two tires at a time.