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TPMS warning reset
« on: November 14, 2011, 05:03:14 pm »
I had the front tire presser sensor replaced a few months back, To day I got the LOW BATTERY SENSOR F message. No problem, I headed to the dealer, about 10 miles and the message went away and all was normal and when I cycled through to the tire pressure screen it showed 42 F and 42 R. O.K. so it was just a fluke. Turned around and headed back on my ride,  then a few miles down the road the warning came on again. O.K. I turned around and headed to the dealer again, but this time I took a picture of the LOW BATTERY message, before I got to the dealer it went away again. I showed the service guy the picture and he said he would me a new unit.
So does it recycle itself back to normal after a while? I though it would keep flashing LOW BATTERY. Once when it did it I pushed both buttons to cancel the warning flashing and the red light came on like it is suppose to, after a short time it went off also. Is this normal? Is it like an alarm that resets itself after so long?

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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 05:22:11 pm »
What was the outside temp?
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 05:30:32 pm »
I had the front tire presser sensor replaced a few months back, To day I got the LOW BATTERY SENSOR F message. No problem, I headed to the dealer, about 10 miles and the message went away and all was normal and when I cycled through to the tire pressure screen it showed 42 F and 42 R. O.K. so it was just a fluke. Turned around and headed back on my ride,  then a few miles down the road the warning came on again. O.K. I turned around and headed to the dealer again, but this time I took a picture of the LOW BATTERY message, before I got to the dealer it went away again. I showed the service guy the picture and he said he would me a new unit.
So does it recycle itself back to normal after a while? I though it would keep flashing LOW BATTERY. Once when it did it I pushed both buttons to cancel the warning flashing and the red light came on like it is suppose to, after a short time it went off also. Is this normal? Is it like an alarm that resets itself after so long?
It is normal. There is nothing wrong with the battery voltage but something wrong with how the low battery message is triggered. Mine did that for 4 years but now have finally stopped, probably because the batteries are now finally getting old and tired after 60,000 miles.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 06:10:37 pm »
What was the outside temp?
The outside temp was about 70 so it wasn't that. When I was in Colorado a few weeks back i got the LOW BATTERY message from the rear unit when I started off in the morning but that went away in a few miles.

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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 06:14:29 pm »
It is normal. There is nothing wrong with the battery voltage but something wrong with how the low battery message is triggered. Mine did that for 4 years but now have finally stopped, probably because the batteries are now finally getting old and tired after 60,000 miles.
They are going to change the sending unit, if it still happens after that then I will have it back at the shop again. It's not normal to act that way. I only have just under 12,000 miles and it never acted like that before. I don't think I would put up with it. If it is something with the way the message is triggered they will have to figure that out, I'm not riding it with that message flashing in my face.

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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 08:11:34 pm »
I aggree it is not appropriate for the units to give false low battery warnings in cool or cold weather but it was very common, if not the norm for the 08 and 09s. I can't say about the later models, supposedly the units have been updated but I have not seem any claims that the issue has been resolved. I did not get the warnings durning my first winter but they were constant during winter 2, 3 and 4. None so far this fall and I have ridden in sub 40 weather.

 Google passivation layer for more info. Consider a 5 dollar coin battery lasting 5 plus years  of daily use. I think that is pretty good. They should have made the battery user replaceable but then they probably don't consider tires user replaceable.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2011, 05:52:26 am »
I aggree it is not appropriate for the units to give false low battery warnings in cool or cold weather but it was very common, if not the norm for the 08 and 09s. I can't say about the later models, supposedly the units have been updated but I have not seem any claims that the issue has been resolved. I did not get the warnings durning my first winter but they were constant during winter 2, 3 and 4. None so far this fall and I have ridden in sub 40 weather.

 Google passivation layer for more info. Consider a 5 dollar coin battery lasting 5 plus years  of daily use. I think that is pretty good. They should have made the battery user replaceable but then they probably don't consider tires user replaceable.

That's exactly how it started on my 2010.  Cool mornings it would come and go.  It go progressively worse over a few months.  I finally had it replaced and the problem was fixed.  BTW, because mine came and went a lot, I also took pictures of my dash with the message and the miles showing.  That made it easy for me to get the dealer to replace it under warranty.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2011, 06:58:42 am »
Thanks for the replies. If it was a cold morning I probably would not thought anything of it but it was in the 70's so I figured there was something wrong. I'll let you know how the new one works. Now I'm thinking about having the front tire replaced at the same time, if they won't charge me labor. I have 8,000 miles on it but it's not close to the wear bars, probably have 4 or 5000 more miles to go.

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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2011, 08:23:43 am »
There was something about running the air pressure over 50# then back to 42 and that resets it.

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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 01:06:22 pm »
Perhaps the wheel was colder than that from overnight temperatures? What you are describing is usually attributed to low temperatures, starting in the low 60's or 50's F. The situation changes when the sensor warms up a bit. Those are the temperatures the sensor is soaked to, not the outside temperature though, so first thing in the morning the sensors may be quite a bit colder than the ambient temperature.

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The outside temp was about 70 so it wasn't that. When I was in Colorado a few weeks back i got the LOW BATTERY message from the rear unit when I started off in the morning but that went away in a few miles.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 02:09:23 pm »
Mine are both now doing it "all the time" so I just called the dealer. They say bring it in and leave it.........I say why? We need to see it occur then order parts, then perform the install. I say......just order the damn sensors, this is a common problem on this bike.....they say no can do and Kawi has to approve it. I say.......Kawi better approve or no more buying a Kawi for me. So now I have to ride it in and let them see it, then they will contact Kawi and hopefully they will approve. I then need to schedule appt for the repair, and it is getting cold here in OHIO. Maybe I will just wait until Spring, I have a warranty until July. What a pain in the ass!!!!!!!! ::)
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 02:16:34 pm »
Take a picture.  It will last longer.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 02:36:53 pm »
My TPM sensors are doing the same thing as yours are Pokey.

I snapped a couple of pics with the cell and e-mailed them to my dealer's tech. He told me that the pics weren't necessary, he'd take my word for it. He wanted to know when I wanted him to change out the sensors. I told him that since there's only maybe another 4 weeks of riding season left here that I would just bring in my bike sometime in the spring. He said cool, just let him know when to order the sensors.
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 02:44:12 pm »
Well, your problem is really with your dealer so this might or might not help- Take a photo of the sensor warning with a current (or reasonably current) newspaper in the photo. Sort of like a hostage photo.  ;)  Seriously, it really does show the fault and proves that it is happening and should be enough as long as your dealer is reasonable. If they are not reasonable then there is no fix for that that I have found yet. Dropping the bike off is the usual way to deal with warranty issues but it really is not necessary in this case IMO as it is a well known problem and easy to document.

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Mine are both now doing it "all the time" so I just called the dealer. They say bring it in and leave it.........I say why? We need to see it occur then order parts, then perform the install. I say......just order the damn sensors, this is a common problem on this bike.....they say no can do and Kawi has to approve it. I say.......Kawi better approve or no more buying a Kawi for me. So now I have to ride it in and let them see it, then they will contact Kawi and hopefully they will approve. I then need to schedule appt for the repair, and it is getting cold here in OHIO. Maybe I will just wait until Spring, I have a warranty until July. What a pain in the ass!!!!!!!! ::)
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Re: TPMS warning reset
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 03:49:01 pm »
I will take a picture, can't hurt things I reckon.
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