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Offline Conrad

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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2011, 04:58:52 am »
I paid under invoice, went through the 'net.  My experience was really quite nice, I was prepared to do battle but I never needed to.  I went the route of the extended warranty because I felt it was the right thing to do, for me and the dealer.  If not for the %0 I would have stayed with the standard warranty and skipped the extra xzyline and tinted windows.  My bottom line is really simple, would I refer the saleslady to anyone?  Yes, her name is CindyLu at the Tacoma Look Larson dealer.  I'll gladly share her number if anyone is interested.

So, I hit 300 miles before the gauge registered half.  I should hit 600 before I need to fill er up, and very little of that was highway miles.  The book shows something like a thousand miles before she is broke in.  I think I will really realize the best economy once I get 3 tanks of diesel through her.  Something neat I noticed today, each fob logs it's own economy data, I think I'll challenge my wife to see who does better ;D


I'll be going with the extended warranty too, so far I have yet to see pricing on this though. In looking a bit more at the percentage rates, it's 0% on '11's and 0.9% on the '12's.

As for break in., from what I'm reading on the TDI site it's more than a 1,000 miles. http://forums.tdiclub.com/

My Silverado has the same deal with separate economy data/fobs, driver one and driver two. It even keeps track of what radio station each driver had on last along with how the doors are programmed to lock/unlock along with a few other items, mirror/seat position...
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2011, 08:36:30 am »
I'll recheck the book on break in, not that it really matters, I aint gonna be hot rodding it.  I do know that I got a '12 at the %0 rate.  About the only thing I didn't get was the 3M film, I was going to but SWMBO wasn't interested.  I also went with the 5 year, 100,000 mile extended, cheaper then the 6 year, 100,000 mile, I'll be over the 100k limit by the 5 year mark so I figured I would keep the spare change for the tank.  I didnt know the fons would also help with the presets.  I wonder if her fob will take control of the radio when we are together 8)
Have you taken a test drive yet?  I'd sure like to hear your opinion.

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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2011, 08:56:47 am »
I'll recheck the book on break in, not that it really matters, I aint gonna be hot rodding it.  I do know that I got a '12 at the %0 rate.  About the only thing I didn't get was the 3M film, I was going to but SWMBO wasn't interested.  I also went with the 5 year, 100,000 mile extended, cheaper then the 6 year, 100,000 mile, I'll be over the 100k limit by the 5 year mark so I figured I would keep the spare change for the tank.  I didnt know the fons would also help with the presets.  I wonder if her fob will take control of the radio when we are together 8)
Have you taken a test drive yet?  I'd sure like to hear your opinion.

If you don't mind me asking, how much did the extended 5 year/100K warranty cost you? I'd prolly opt for the 6 year because I doubt that with 2 other vehicles and Connie in the line up that I'd do 100k in 5 years.

No, I haven't taken a test drive, heck, I haven't even seen a JSW in person yet. I'll remedy that situation within the next week or so though. I'll post back once I get behind the wheel and let you know what my thoughts are.

Good question about who's fob will take control. Since you have the wireless/push to start option I'd guess whoever has fob number 1? On my Silverado it's whoever uses their fob to unlock the doors.
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2011, 09:10:09 am »
Break-in info from the TDI club. (I know nothing about Jetta TDI's, just passing this along)

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=464223

Rules that apply for the life of the car
-When the engine is cold (below the first 3 white marks at the base of the temp gage) rev the engine to at least 2,500 rpms.
-When the engine is warmed up (above the first three white marks) Rev the engine to no less than 3,000 rpms.
The reason for this is to keep the turbo on boost, clear the VNT guide vanes and apply firm pressure to the rings for optimal sealing against blow-by gasses. The rings need the boost to seal since its a turbo charged engine, babying the engine is detrimental and will lead to issues with compression if done so for very long.

First 1,000 miles
Keep rpms below 3,800. Avoid steady rpms. Frequent firm application of power is strongly recomended up to 3,800 rpm. Avoid the use of cruise control so that you naturally fluctuate the power with your foot.

1,000-5,000 miles
Use the full 5,100 rpm power range. Avoid steady rpms. Avoid the use of cruise control. Frequent application of full throttle is recomended to help seat the rings. City driving is ideal for breaking in a TDI due to frequent stops and acceleration. Once you get to 5,000 miles change the oil and perform your first service per the manual

5,000-10,000 miles
Use of the cruise control is ok at this point since most of the initial break in has occured. Continue to use occasional full throttle accelerations to continue to seat the rings. You will notice the engine become slightly louder during this phase due to less friction from the engine breaking in (normal for a diesel to become louder under lighter loads). If your going on a long drive and you are using the cruise, every so often step on the peddle to accelerate up about 20 mph then coast back down to your preset speed.

10,000-60,000
This is when the rest of the break in occurs. The engine from the factory will check out with about 475psi of compression pressure out of the crate. It will take at least 60,000 miles to reach the peak pressure of 550psi. For the most part once you get to 10,000 miles your compression will be around 510psi meaning that most of the break in has occured.

60,000-the life of the motor
The engines I have seen so far using a 5w40 oil are maintaining 550 psi of compression pressure with over 200,000 miles on the odometer. The owners have followed the advice above and do not have any oil consumption issues. This also means that with the higher pressure the engine is more efficient returning optimal fuel economy and reduced smoke output.
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2011, 09:25:10 am »
It was packaged with the xzyline coating, it was in the neighborhood of 2k.  Have you done the internet request?  My wife had been shopping for a few months and some of the net salespeople were quite demanding, but CindyLu wasn't, she felt quite genuine, a big reason why we didn't buy from the dealership 10 minutes away.  I had informed her through emails what I was looking for and asked for a best price up front.  The base price I paid for the TDI, w/nav package was 25,500.  Sticker on the car was 29,900.  Before trade in, with the ext. warranty, TT&L, and coating OTD was 30 and change.  I got 105000 trade in on an 06 Colorado.
Oh, I got the %0 on a 2012, I wonder if end of the month volume sales helped?  I do know from recruiting that MEPS was always more eager to work and deal then they were say mid month.
I am kinda missing my truck though.  I have a great wife, she is looking for an F350 diesel, turbo of course ;D

Wow, way differant that what the book calls for.  Some similarities like varrying RPMs, but the car (2012 anyway) doesn't have a temp gauge.  First checkup is due at 6k miles, then every 10 after that.  Since the first 4 services are covered I will be doing them as required.  They say oil change intervals are 10,000 miles, Holy cow, I think I'll be staying at 5-6k for changes once the contract is up.  Probably overkill, but it will make me feel better.  I may even do an oil change early, I've seen what comes out of a new engine after a hundred miles, I dont think I want to keep that stuff in there for 6k miles.  It comes with full synthetic, so natuarally it will stay that way.

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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2011, 09:51:47 am »
Yes, I did the internet request from Truecar.com. I got back 4 replies and they all will sell me the car I want at invoice. 2 of the 4 have my attention, their replies seemed very personable.  I've been quoted a price of $28,685 for a '12 JSW w/DSG, sunroof, body side moldings, roof spoiler, and the protection kit (TDI floor mats, trunk protector, and mud flaps) I'll just need to add the ext warranty.

This a HUGE difference from when I bought my last new car. It was almost like pulling teeth to get the invoice price deal. I walked out on 2 dealers in the process.

Have you done much reading at the TDI club site I mentioned above? The guys who seem to know what they're talking about are VERY adamant about NOT changing the oil before 5k. Check this thread out, http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=428452

I know that everyone has an opinion about oil changes but it makes sense what's being said at that site.
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2011, 04:06:30 pm »
High quality modern diesel engines do not have the need for freqent oil changes .Tollerances are much tighter , diesel oils are MUCH better than 20 years ago,Oil filtration and circulating is much better than years ago , fuel injection cut of the fuel first so there is no chance of fuel leaking past rings to contaminate the engine oil , diesel fuel dose have a better lubrication property than gasoline . THe design is for long lasting engines so bearing etc are bigger /stronger .They will happly run for 500,000 miles so at 20,000 miles a year thats  25 years of use . My Mercedes sprinter 5cylinder turbo calls for oil changes about every 12,000miles but a lot of people run them for 20,000 plus miles . Mine holds 9.5 litres of oil so check the capacity of your VW .

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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2011, 05:23:36 pm »
My old 2003 had oil changes every 10000 miles as requested in the manual. It might be different in the newer car books.
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2011, 10:35:19 am »
I'm about thisclose to pulling the trigger on a '12 JSW TDI DSG w/sunroof & navigation. I just got off the phone with a dealer in Chicago. They have one coming from the port and it's exactly what I want. He'll sell it to me for $500 UNDER invoice. I can't go this weekend but I'll be taking a drive to Chicago next weekend and taking a test drive of one they have on the lot. If I like it, I'll be signing the papers then and waiting for my new car.

BTW, I got the fastest color. Silverdammit!
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2011, 11:30:33 am »
How cool is this sunroof!

VW sportwagen TDI panoramic sunroof demonstration


And check out this car stereo/nav system. 6 disc CD changer, sat radio, HD am/fm, and midi player.

Volkswagen RNS315 GPS system demo, review, and tips in a VW Jetta TDI
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2011, 02:26:28 pm »
This is good.  We can take a road trip in it next summer....
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2011, 02:58:18 pm »
Road trip in a car? :loco:
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2011, 03:00:38 pm »
You can carry more beer that way...  We can at least drive around the house a few times.  Never driven a new VW or diesel for that matter.  Maybe Conrad should be worried?
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2011, 03:38:25 pm »
We can make a beer and pizza run in the veedub Jim.

Hard to carry pizza on the bike.
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Re: Bought a Jetta TDI W/Nav package
« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2011, 03:57:35 pm »
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