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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2011, 08:37:27 am »
I hope the DVD player opens.  I want to be able to take Adobe LightRoom 3 disk out after loading so I can then load the Photoshop CS5.
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 08:52:32 am »
Funny... just ordered a Mac Air, first Apple 'puter product.  I have a iPad2, won that at EMC World earlier this year, great little tool... have an iPhone 4s being delivered today for work purposes to replace my Droid X, can't lock the security down on them like you can the iPhone. 

I've been avoiding the Apple cart for a long time, just costly products mainly compared to the alternative... but they always seem to be a great product.
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 11:57:45 am »
I understand completely.  I was also waiting for that arrogant SOB to kick over before buying anything from them.

Have we been better off feeding Bill Gates our $$$$
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2011, 12:09:13 pm »
Have we been better off feeding Bill Gates our $$$$
No, however Bill Gates at least has some charity in him.  Jobs was a selfish miser who did his best to shut out his friends, charities and even the mother of his own daughter.  No doubt he was a genius, and possibly the most influential visionary in the last 100 years.  But as a person, he was dispicable, IMHO.   What amazes me is that he managed to live long enough to die at the hands of a disease. 

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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2011, 12:10:34 pm »
+1 on Bill's philanthropy
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2011, 12:12:24 pm »
No, however Bill Gates at least has some charity in him.  Jobs was a selfish miser who did his best to shut out his friends, charities and even the mother of his own daughter.  No doubt he was a genius, and possibly the most influential visionary in the last 100 years.  But as a person, he was dispicable, IMHO.   What amazes me is that he managed to live long enough to die at the hands of a disease. 

Prepare to follow this thread as it moves to the arena very soon.

Thanks for the explanation!  I didn't intend for a computer thread to become "Arena" style, but hey we can continue there too  :D
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2011, 01:59:31 pm »
No, however Bill Gates at least has some charity in him.  Jobs was a selfish miser who did his best to shut out his friends, charities and even the mother of his own daughter.  No doubt he was a genius, and possibly the most influential visionary in the last 100 years.  But as a person, he was dispicable, IMHO.   What amazes me is that he managed to live long enough to die at the hands of a disease. 

Prepare to follow this thread as it moves to the arena very soon.

Hopefully not to toss to much fuel on the Arena move... but Mr. Gates didn't move into the Nice column until recently.  He as well tried to shut out and cut off some of the people that helped start the MSFT empire.  He was pretty cold and ruthless before he left the company.
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2011, 02:35:27 pm »
Not casting an opinion either way but most highly successful people are egomaniacs if not megalomaniacs. It is not really a bad thing, just a personality trait. Just like most famous generals who served in major fields of combat- read several of their biographies, especially autobiographies and they really all share one personality.

I would agree that Bill (I like to think we are on a first name basis) has done a lot of philanthropic work but one has to wonder what drives it- the betterment of mankind or feeding an enormous ego. Is he really helping or is he just casting the control of a huge amount of wealth in a new and different direction? Perhaps all of the above?

Funny thing but if one is relentless in the pursuit of a disease's cure or a criminal's capture / prosecution then that individual (or group) is praised for having such a great behavioral trait. If an anarchist is relentless in the pursuit of the destruction of order, or the neighborhood 'crazy' cat lady has 47 cats, that individual is criticized for the overzealous pursuit of a single item and obsessive behavior. But really, isn't it the same thing?

Bill and Steve aside, I still think a Mac is a slicker, more user friendly platform. And I still use a PC because I have to, and it serves well enough to do anything I have wanted to do so far.

Now depending on Jim's zealousness, this may end up in the arena. How many more posts the thread gets may depend on the zealousness of the posters there....  :D

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No, however Bill Gates at least has some charity in him.  Jobs was a selfish miser who did his best to shut out his friends, charities and even the mother of his own daughter.  No doubt he was a genius, and possibly the most influential visionary in the last 100 years.  But as a person, he was dispicable, IMHO.   What amazes me is that he managed to live long enough to die at the hands of a disease. 

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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2011, 02:47:51 pm »
Hopefully not to toss to much fuel on the Arena move... but Mr. Gates didn't move into the Nice column until recently.  He as well tried to shut out and cut off some of the people that helped start the MSFT empire.  He was pretty cold and ruthless before he left the company.
I guess the whole "daughter thing" stuck in my craw.  Here's a guy with plenty of resources to help his child have basic comforts and security, but just to spite his ex-girlfriend, he denied the little girl for years, and fought providing ANY support for her.  I think if he had spent the remainder of his life and fortune helping the poor and needy, I'll never be able to forgive him for that one situation alone.  Doesn't matter, he got his in the end.
I agree that the Mac is a better platform, and most Apple products lead where others try to follow.  Until my employer starts using them, I'm stuck with the MS Windows platform.
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2011, 02:50:34 pm »
Funny thing but if one is relentless in the pursuit of a disease's cure or a criminal's capture / prosecution then that individual (or group) is praised for having such a great behavioral trait. If an anarchist is relentless in the pursuit of the destruction of order, or the neighborhood 'crazy' cat lady has 47 cats, that individual is criticized for the overzealous pursuit of a single item and obsessive behavior. But really, isn't it the same thing?
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2011, 03:01:06 pm »
Nah, if I wanted to do that, I would post things like '+ 1' and similar. Besides, I don't think posts in the Open forum or Arena count in the post score. And I do not even read the arena, let alone post there.

The guy who really wants to post a lot is Kirby! That little guy has an opinion on everything, often more than one opinion on the same subject and sometimes even conflicting opinions on the same subject. It is unbelievable. I have to restrict his computer access (both PC and Mac) or he would overrun the place.

Besides all of that, I know that a high post count does not mean that any of the posts themselves are useful. The Internet gives everyone a voice but I am still not convinced that that ever was a good idea. Sort of the way penicillin would seem to be a great idea until it cures pneumonia in someone like Joseph Stalin....  ;)

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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2011, 03:34:33 pm »
Nah, if I wanted to do that, I would post things like '+ 1' and similar. Besides, I don't think posts in the Open forum or Arena count in the post score. And I do not even read the arena, let alone post there.

The guy who really wants to post a lot is Kirby! That little guy has an opinion on everything, often more than one opinion on the same subject and sometimes even conflicting opinions on the same subject. It is unbelievable. I have to restrict his computer access (both PC and Mac) or he would overrun the place.

Besides all of that, I know that a high post count does not mean that any of the posts themselves are useful. The Internet gives everyone a voice but I am still not convinced that that ever was a good idea. Sort of the way penicillin would seem to be a great idea until it cures pneumonia in someone like Joseph Stalin....  ;)

Brian

+1  :rotflmao:
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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2011, 03:42:05 pm »
Nah, if I wanted to do that, I would post things like '+ 1' and similar. Besides, I don't think posts in the Open forum or Arena count in the post score. And I do not even read the arena, let alone post there.

The guy who really wants to post a lot is Kirby! That little guy has an opinion on everything, often more than one opinion on the same subject and sometimes even conflicting opinions on the same subject. It is unbelievable. I have to restrict his computer access (both PC and Mac) or he would overrun the place.

Besides all of that, I know that a high post count does not mean that any of the posts themselves are useful. The Internet gives everyone a voice but I am still not convinced that that ever was a good idea. Sort of the way penicillin would seem to be a great idea until it cures pneumonia in someone like Joseph Stalin....  ;)

Brian


+1,

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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2011, 03:43:37 pm »
I guess the whole "daughter thing" stuck in my craw.  Here's a guy with plenty of resources to help his child have basic comforts and security, but just to spite his ex-girlfriend, he denied the little girl for years, and fought providing ANY support for her.  I think if he had spent the remainder of his life and fortune helping the poor and needy, I'll never be able to forgive him for that one situation alone.  Doesn't matter, he got his in the end.
I agree that the Mac is a better platform, and most Apple products lead where others try to follow.  Until my employer starts using them, I'm stuck with the MS Windows platform.


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Re: 'puters - I'm heading over to the dark side at last
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2011, 07:28:40 pm »
Steve,

Okay...


so I've been reading the whole thread...


starting with the title...


and I want to know...






When are you going to put the car tire on your new Mac??? 


It's killing me!!!
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