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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2011, 11:38:33 pm »
After having both motorcycles for a few days now, I thought that I would post a quick sunmary.

The C14 is a fast bike!! It is loud on the highway, but for sport riding on roads, I am not sure it can be beat. I don't see myself taking this bike on extended tours.

The RT is a comfortable bike that is quiet on the highway, and comfortable to ride. I can certainly see touring on this bike.

Overall, my feeling is the BMW is built with higher quality standards and is better for touring. The C14, I view as a more upright seated sport bike.

I am always looking for riding partners. If anyone is ever out here in central to southern CA, that's where I keep my bikes. Look me up and lets go ride!

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2011, 08:13:17 am »
Pics, Pics, Pics. We need to see some pics. Without pics nothing is real...  ;D
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2011, 08:46:22 am »

The C14 is a fast bike!! It is loud on the highway, but for sport riding on roads, I am not sure it can be beat. I don't see myself taking this bike on extended tours.


Kurt

I guess it depends on the rider...   I rode mine to Reno and back from the East coast and it did fine.  I'd tour with it anywhere except off road.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2011, 04:07:53 pm »
7 December 2011

Kurt,

This may be late, but here goes.  I had a 1992 Connie that I owned over six years.  Bought used with almost 22K, sold it with almost 172K.  Great machine and it was quite good.  Would love to have a later-model post-93 red or black C10 Connie.

After a couple of interim bikes following the C10, I bought a 2003 BMW R1150RT w/ 19,600 miles in November 2005.  Over six years now, she has almost 111,000 miles and running strong.  I did have the dreaded HES (ignition sensor pickup) failure this past April at 96K, which stranded me, but that's over with.

The bike is very DIY shadetree-mechanic friendly except the ABS servicing, which I don't have the expertise to perform.  The 6K and 12K services I combine to do every 20K and that works fine - the screw-and-locknut valve clearances have stabilized.  Single-sided swingarm making wheel removal a piece of cake.  Front wheel removal also very easy.  The brake pads all three calipers are ridiculously easy to change, unlike the real pain in the neck of my 1992 Connie.

No water pump, no coolant, two spark plugs.  A simple machine in most respects.  How does this extrapolate to the R1200RT?  Mechanically, about the same.  The R1200RT is much uglier than the R1150RT, but still a great machine.  New bikes have heated everything, BlueTooth, cruise control, tailored displays, etc.  Nice.

The RT has a much bigger fuel tank and much better gas mileage.  MUCH better.  While touring, figure 270-320 miles per tank, easy.

Drawbacks - the fuel filter and fuel pump are inside the fuel tank and not trivial to replace.  The alternator belt (yes, a belt like your car) is replaced every 36K (new bulletin now sez every 25K, which is overkill).

The 2010 and newer Oilhead / Hexhead machines have the new "semispherical" shims for valve adjustment.  Very, very mechanic friendly for DIY, but the drawback is shim replacement - have to go to the dealer and swapout / buy new shims (gotta do the math right - "measure twice, cut once") or buy a pricey shim kit.  I like the screw-and-locknut setup much better.

I feel the same emotions about the R1200RT vs the C14 Connie.  If you are gonna do your own mainteance and very handy and DIY capable, the new and late model R1200RTs are better to work on, with some of the Kraut bike quirks not seen in the Japanese bike wold.  If you are mechanically a klutz and will do all dealer servicing, the C14 is quite attractive

Cheers, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone,
Mike Shelton
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2011, 04:24:49 pm »
Cheers, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone,
Mike Shelton
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I am consistently amazed at how many of us are from Virginia on this message board.  Seems way disproportionate.  Anyone else notice that?  (Yes, I am a native and resident Virginian).
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2011, 04:44:03 pm »
I am consistently amazed at how many of us are from Virginia on this message board.  Seems way disproportionate.  Anyone else notice that?  (Yes, I am a native and resident Virginian).

I see them (C14's) in Hampton Roads every now and then, not a lot as this is Harley Country for some reason. 

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2011, 05:12:31 pm »
I am consistently amazed at how many of us are from Virginia on this message board.  Seems way disproportionate.  Anyone else notice that?  (Yes, I am a native and resident Virginian).

Yep, not that there's anything wrong with that.  :)
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2011, 05:15:20 pm »

Cheers, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone,
Mike Shelton
Stafford, VA
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Mike, glad you found us.  Believe it or not I was thinking about you the other day.

Jim
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2011, 06:37:56 pm »
Jim,

Thanks for the welcome back.  Refresh my dull memory - where are you located?  In my previous Connie life, I was CoggerMike when I was a COG Member and semi-frequent participant on the COG-List.  Recent magazine articles and some discussions with others have made me think of the C14 if and when I get a new machine.

I had always been a Jap bike owner - the R1150RT is my first German bike and it took a while to get acclimated to some of the unique attributes it has, but it has turned out to be a nice machine.  It does have potentially problematic certain ABS failure scenarios that may be unpleasant, but so far so good on the reliability.  I took it on a 7543-mile tour to the NorthWest and down to Las Vegas this Summer.  In October rode it on business to Kansas City, down to Albany, GA, and return.  Been to Oshkosh twice and KC several times, plus a bunch of times to Tennessee.  Did the "Big Bend Ride The Twisties" in March 2008 where I hooked up with my dear friends Ted Adcock and Troy Minton.  It is fun in the twisties and mountains.  And it will drone all day and night on the superslab.

Thinking hard about a C14 myself, but the 2007-2011 R1200RT models look enticing also.  I love the simplicity and long-term reliability of an oil-cooled / air-cooled twin boxer.  They are neat bikes.

Cheers,
Mike Shelton
Stafford, VA

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2011, 03:14:06 am »
Ah, getting old eh?  2002 C10, King George, I rode your  BMW to Kilmarnock and at that time couldn't wait to get back on the C10... ;)
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2011, 02:51:22 pm »
Jim Sparkman, hey, is that you?  How the heck is ya?

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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2011, 02:53:00 pm »
I is fine and enjoying my C14, at least I was until August or so...but that's another story outside of this thread.  Am tickled you made it back to us, Mike.
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2011, 03:42:38 pm »
Hey Jim, anyone ever call you Sparky?     :o
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2011, 03:56:53 pm »
Yep and it's fine by me...
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Re: Buying a C14 or R1200RT tomorrow
« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2011, 03:59:19 pm »
Jim, glad to know you're still vertical w/o a toe tag.  How is Martha?

As for being "old," my son thinks I flew pterodactyls when I was in Navy primary training.  But this summer I did a 17-day 7543-mile trip up to the great NorthWet (w/o rain, actually) on the RT.  Did Rapid City, The Badlands, Devil's Tower, all that stuff, then 212 across Montana to Little Big Horn, I-90 into Washington, spent a couple of nights with an old grad school buddy in Chehalis, then down through Nampa, ID and to Las Vegas for three nights with the kids and my grandchillen.  My son graduated from Navy Test Pilot School in June and is now assigned to a joint Navy / Air Force test office at Nellis AFB, flying the Hornet, the F-16, and some stuff he can't discuss.

Then the long drone home via I-40 / I-81 / I-64, etc.

Not bad for an old guy.  IBA#9019.  All on the marvelous machine you chose to diss.  Shame on ya.  That bike now has a tick below 111,000 miles and running great.  In many ways, much easier to work on than the mighty fine C10.  I just would prefer an RT w/o ABS and I would be much happier.

You can ping me off-list and tell me your C14 saga.  I have a RT saga story also but she's great now.

Cheers,
Mike Shelton
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