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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2012, 12:15:32 pm »
So is KiPass failure all or nothing?  You either get power or nothing?  I'm just curious because I'm having an issue, but I don't think it is KiPass.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #91 on: February 16, 2012, 12:18:31 pm »
So is KiPass failure all or nothing?  You either get power or nothing?  I'm just curious because I'm having an issue, but I don't think it is KiPass.

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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #92 on: February 16, 2012, 12:28:18 pm »
Assuming the switch failure occurs within 24 hours of the last start, the red blinky light should be on, which is indication of power of some sort. 
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2012, 04:08:16 pm »
Yes, a KiPass failure is almost certainly an outright failure and early too- right away in the starting process. If the dash lights and / or the bike makes any kind of noises at all, then KiPass is working fine. Unfortunately the symptoms of a KiPass failure and a dead battery are the same other than the red light flashing on the dash and that light only flashes for the first 24 hours after the bike is turned off anyway. So after a day goes by, a KiPass failure has the identical symptoms to a dead battery (the main battery)- you press the key down and absolutely nothing happens.

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So is KiPass failure all or nothing?  You either get power or nothing?  I'm just curious because I'm having an issue, but I don't think it is KiPass.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2012, 06:48:32 pm »
So if I am reading this thread correctly, Kawa replaced a spring on later model bikes?  What year did they make the switch, and has there been any issues on bikes with the beefier spring?  Just curious.

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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #95 on: February 16, 2012, 09:04:18 pm »
So far not even a hiccup from KIPASS on my 2008.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #96 on: February 16, 2012, 09:59:21 pm »
It seems that no one outside of Kawasaki knows. Here is what we do know: there were some instances of the activation switch sticking 'ON' (down) on C-14s made in '08 and '09 and perhaps later. There was a change of the part number on the ignition switch assembly between Gen.1 and Gen.2 bikes (2009 ends Gen. 1, 2010 starts Gen. 2) but it is not known what was changed. The sticking switch problem seems to have occurred less on later years but has turned up on Gen. 2 bikes all the way to 2011 if I remember correctly. I <assume> Kawasaki is using the stiffer spring on the current ignition assemblies but again, no information is available that I have seen to indicate exactly what was changed or when.

When a C-14 does have the sticking switch problem, Kawasaki supplies the dealer with a stronger spring and pays for the labor to R&R the switch assembly and replace that spring. The spring does not have a part number nor is it available as a separate part to customers / owners of C-14s.

Sorry but that is the best information I have and it is not very conclusive.

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So if I am reading this thread correctly, Kawa replaced a spring on later model bikes?  What year did they make the switch, and has there been any issues on bikes with the beefier spring?  Just curious.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2012, 04:44:32 am »
So far not even a hiccup from KIPASS on my 2008.

Of course you know this will now happen to you.  I hope not, but making a statement like that can upset balance in the Force.  I made a statement earlier in this thread and bingo bango it happened to me shortly thereafter.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2012, 09:58:12 am »
So far not even a hiccup from KIPASS on my 2008.

Mine waited till I was over 1700 miles from home  >:(


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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2012, 10:03:23 am »
this is my fear ... as i am taking it down to bike week ... long ways from home.  /crosses-fingers
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #100 on: February 17, 2012, 10:26:58 am »
Come in altro Thread... ho scritto.. ,questo sistema d'accensione della moto lo devono buttare via in Kawasaki... altro difetto di detto meccanismo è che sono riuscito e senza transponder e senza premere su chiave accensione a fare partire il motore del GTR 1400 Kawasaki.


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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #101 on: February 17, 2012, 03:11:39 pm »
I aint skeered!!!!!
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #102 on: February 17, 2012, 03:13:38 pm »
Neither am I , actually, and it just happened to me.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #103 on: February 17, 2012, 03:17:30 pm »
You guys who are chicken to take long distance rides for fear of KiPass issues better not drive, fly or cross the street either. Those could get you kilt, not just stranded.
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Re: My least favorite part of my C-14 has now let me down, KIPASS failure
« Reply #104 on: February 17, 2012, 04:54:12 pm »
What y'all are forgetting, is if the KiPass does fail, by passing the switch is easy. 

The LH panel on top of the fairing is very easy to remove & then you can easily unplug & plug the grey connector & activate the KiPass.  I done this on a number of times when my switch "stuck".  I even had to show the dealer which plug so they could move my bike around until they repaired the switch.

I wouldn't be afraid to take mine anywhere & I've had a KiPass failure.