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Offline fartymarty

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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2020, 12:17:57 pm »
Despite the older skew of this group, Chrome M' I'm afraid your search for commiseration or kindred spirits here maybe fruitless. I have two mid seventies
motorcycles and both have been upgraded to electronic ignition and if it was easy they'd both have fuel injection as well. I'm sure they'd both run better with the mighty powah of
KIPASS
, but alas Brian (aka BDF) hasn't come out with his universal KIPASS system yet.

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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2020, 11:43:35 am »
Both my bikes have fairings and hard bags. Both have carbs-infinately tunable. Never a problem.
They both have points. One OEM, the other converted after the OEM electronic system went Tango Uniform in 4k miles.
Brakes? Triple Brembos.
GPS? Yes, they have Gluteus Positioning Systems.
Only problem I have is I can't get either to run on more than two cylinders.
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2020, 02:15:26 pm »
Whatever an individual or even a group of people may want, motorcycles continue to become more modernized as the years go by. KiPass is not unique to the C-14 (well that specific name is but not the basic type of system), and carburetors and points ain't comin' back ever. In some ways this does make them more complex but the trade- off is greatly increased reliability and less service, especially 'it will not start' type of service and worst of all 'it stranded me' service. And yes, things such as KiPass and all the other electronics do bring with them the possibility of new, modern type failures, the older cruder forms of machine were far less reliable overall.

While Marty is right in that this is generally an older group of people I think the great majority of us can be honest enough to realize that most changes over, say, the last four decades have resulted in better machines. Personally, I do not miss wiping out distributor caps when they got wet and would not run.  ::)

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Despite the older skew of this group, Chrome M' I'm afraid your search for commiseration or kindred spirits here maybe fruitless. I have two mid seventies
motorcycles and both have been upgraded to electronic ignition and if it was easy they'd both have fuel injection as well. I'm sure they'd both run better with the mighty powah of
KIPASS
, but alas Brian (aka BDF) hasn't come out with his universal KIPASS system yet.
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2020, 02:24:31 pm »
Perhaps rereading the opening post is needed.
Nowhere are digital ignition and EFI criticized.

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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2020, 02:27:43 pm »
I think those two things are at the top of the list making modern motorcycles more complex.

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Perhaps rereading the opening post is needed.
Nowhere are digital ignition and EFI criticized.
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2020, 12:09:37 pm »
  I just cannot understand having something that is jammed up with electronics and ####.

Perhaps rereading the opening post is needed.
Nowhere are digital ignition and EFI criticized.

Well excuse the f##k outta me for not knowing exactly what you meant by ..."...jammed up with electronics and ####". :censored: :facepalm:

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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2020, 02:50:00 pm »
Excellent usage of the face palm smiley!
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2020, 03:27:02 pm »
Yeah, that is what I thought too but clearly, I was mistaken.  :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I tells' ya', the Covid is making some peoples a little..... 'iffy'. :-)

Well excuse the f##k outta me for not knowing exactly what you meant by ..."...jammed up with electronics and ####". :censored: :facepalm:
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2020, 03:27:57 pm »
Nothing smiley about it- it means, more or less, I cannot believe (whatever it is used with regards too).

Excellent usage of the face palm smiley!
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2020, 05:04:50 am »
It's a smiley if I say it's a smiley....LOL.
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Re: Bikes are TOO COMPLEX TODAY RANT
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2020, 11:20:30 am »
If you don't want complex technology, don't watch this video.  The next step is to eliminate the rider altogether, and just let the vehicles go out on their own, do what they want without us even being involved.  We'll just buy them, and set them loose on their own.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=self-balancing+BMW+motorcycle&pn=1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0W8p9Pc7VUQ

Not sure if the "rider" shown is organic or robotic.



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