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Offline Haroldo_PSF

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Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« on: May 03, 2012, 09:40:59 am »
See the pics. It looks like a staple, but it is a bent nail, with one puncture only.
The tire (Pirelli Angel) has about 1000 miles on it (son of a ....!).

1) Can this be fixed with a simple tire fix/patch kit I have at home?
2) If yes to the above, would that be a temporary fix, or could I ride the remaining life of the tire on that patch/fix?

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 09:46:21 am »
Bummer,  were you able to make it home, patch kit time.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 09:52:46 am »
Bummer,  were you able to make it home, patch kit time.

Oh yes. I can't tell you how much I LOVE these TPS sensors. It is the second time they not only warned me I had a flat, but also their readings told me it was a slow leak flat, and I could get home as I monitored the pressure in the highway.

First time was a couple of years back, when I was about to leave from work and the front tire was on the ground. I inflated it, and rode to the shop while monitoring the pressure on the dash.

This time yesterday, as soon as I got on the freeway, I noticed the rear pressure was at 35psi, compared to 41psi that same morning. I immediatelly knew I had an issue. And at the same time, I knew I was OK to keep going, as I had enough pressure (35psi), and I could keep monitoring the pressure as I went.

These sensors are one of my favorite features of this bike. In addition to identifying a possible flat, they also let you know when you tires are warm in cold mornings after a few miles, when the pressure goes up a bit.

But again, I have zero experience with patching, or having it patched, or riding with a patched tire. If I fix it, can I actually ride the remaining life of the tire on the fix? If not, I would just patch to learn how to do it, and then get a new tire anyway. The bike is in my garage.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 09:58:19 am »
You'll get a lot of differing opinions on this. I recently had my first flat on my C14, picked up a screw in the back tire. I patched it using my sticky rope kit and I plan on riding with the tire that way till it's worn out. The fix worked perfectly and the tire is not losing any air at all.

I asked my dealer's tech about this and his advice was to ride on but to keep it below 100mph. I didn't listen to the second part of his advice...
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 11:54:09 am »
If it were me I would do a plug/patch and just keep a close eye on it. 
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 12:01:37 pm »
Well, for the sake of entertainment I would suggest watching Freds videos after a six pack of your favorite brew.  Wait a coupla days, patch/plug using elmers glue.  Post up results as help is required!!  Lets turn this into another epic thread for the memory books, I would also suggest waiting until the 10th to begin.

If ya aint ready for that again, I would follow what Jeremy said, but where would the fun be in that?

Bummer on the staple, I had something similar happen when I was going through the State Instructor Prep class on my RT.  I simply filled the tire to 50ish and rode home, still had 42 after 50 mile trip.  I was due a new tire anyway so I went that route, which turned me into a Pireli fan.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 03:08:51 pm »
Hey Haroldo, good to see you around and posting.

As Conrad said, you will get the entire smear of opinions on this one. I would plug a tire and keep going but only if the hole was clean and round, the tire had a decent amount of life left in it (maybe 50% or more) and the hole was close to perpendicular to the tire carcass.

Another, and probably better option, is to patch the tire from the inside. A properly installed patch should let you forget all about it for the rest of the tire's life. The downside is that you have to de-mount and remount the tire to patch them.

All of that said, even if a plug fails they usually seem to leak rather than have the tire blowout. Given that these bikes have TPS, it reduces the danger of having a <reasonably> slow leak in a tire in the first place and makes a plug more forgiving.

Brian

See the pics. It looks like a staple, but it is a bent nail, with one puncture only.
The tire (Pirelli Angel) has about 1000 miles on it (son of a ....!).

1) Can this be fixed with a simple tire fix/patch kit I have at home?
2) If yes to the above, would that be a temporary fix, or could I ride the remaining life of the tire on that patch/fix?
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 08:52:11 pm »
Plug it for now and when you can (if you can find someone willing to do this...), patch it from inside using the mushroom with the stem type patch.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 10:45:33 pm »
I have Angels and got a nail (rear) at about the same milage, maybe less. I plugged it and it's still going strong. Not going to bother patching unless it starts to leak. TPMS saved me too.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 05:23:38 am »
I always believed that if you ended up getting something in your tire that it's best to replace it. Why take a chance of a sudden deflation and risk your life. That was until I picked up a screw a thousand miles after buying new tires. Took it in and had a patch/plug put in and monitored it for another 12 K until I needed new tires.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 09:45:24 am »
I would Mushroom plug/patch it from the inside of the tire.

I have successfully done this for several riders who have gotten many more thousands of miles from the tires.

I have these on the shelf if ever needed in the Western NC area.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 05:01:29 pm »
Plug it for now and when you can (if you can find someone willing to do this...), patch it from inside using the mushroom with the stem type patch.

that's exactly what I'll do. I had spoken with this family owned shop I take my Triumph Tiger to (third party), and they do that for $30 bucks or so (wheel off the bike when I come in, they take tire off, mushroom it, and put tire back on the rim). I'll do that and ride the tire until its done.

Hey Brian!!! The two year in the planning 10000 miles ride to the arctic and back is in a month! If you plan to be around Seatlle at the time, I'd like to meet you for....what was it you liked again...a Scotch, right?

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 08:21:13 pm »
that's exactly what I'll do. I had spoken with this family owned shop I take my Triumph Tiger to (third party), and they do that for $30 bucks or so (wheel off the bike when I come in, they take tire off, mushroom it, and put tire back on the rim). I'll do that and ride the tire until its done.

Hey Brian!!! The two year in the planning 10000 miles ride to the arctic and back is in a month! If you plan to be around Seatlle at the time, I'd like to meet you for....what was it you liked again...a Scotch, right?

Hit me up too  :chugbeer: :chugbeer:

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 02:15:00 am »
Me three Haraldo.  Tools and whatnot on hand and any other assistance you may need or desire, includes a lake side camping spot complete with geese and goslings ;D  Not too far off the path your'e likely to be traveling either.  Name and info is in the book, Chet Mainwaring in Port Orchard, WA.  I'm good for anywhere in the state, provided I aint on the mountain.  Shoot some likely dates, my schedule is extremly flexible knowadays.

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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 07:28:30 am »
That sounds like a fine plan with the tire.

As far as Seattle goes (Tacoma actually but close enough), nothing definate yet but there is a plan that has me leaving here (east coast) on or around 6 June and getting to the west coast on 8 June- another CC 50. I would be in Tacoma until somewhere around 20 June and then head back although at a more relaxed pace and with my wife for at least part of the trip. If we do cross paths, by all means let's meet up somewhere and see what damage we can do to the local establishment(s)! Best of luck on your trip north.

Brian

that's exactly what I'll do. I had spoken with this family owned shop I take my Triumph Tiger to (third party), and they do that for $30 bucks or so (wheel off the bike when I come in, they take tire off, mushroom it, and put tire back on the rim). I'll do that and ride the tire until its done.

Hey Brian!!! The two year in the planning 10000 miles ride to the arctic and back is in a month! If you plan to be around Seatlle at the time, I'd like to meet you for....what was it you liked again...a Scotch, right?
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