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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2018, 05:07:06 am »
Elite3 I think..  Once they're worn out then Elite4.  Don't have much of a choice with tires..  They're not bad tires per se but they aren't PR's.

Them's Harley tires aren't they?
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2018, 06:05:10 am »
Good point about water acting as lube for punctures. 

I avoid riding in middle of lane.  That is where all the crap, nails, boards, etc, eventually end up.   

I agree, every puncture is unique and each rider has to make thei own decision th plug, patch or replace based upon the puncture type.

Personally, I have used plugs on my mc, truck, trailer and atv without one failure.  Gotta have a sturdy plug insertion tool because some tires require plenty of force to ream and insert. 
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2018, 08:18:59 am »
my record is 5 in one year (IIRC my mileage that year was about 28k).

4 in the rear and one up front, cant remember how many times it was wet though lol

2 of the rears were replaced under Avons Road Safety warranty as the punctures occurred in the first 1mm of wear  (actually one of them was closer to 2mm but the area rep asked my spanner man if I was a regular Avon customer.....

Not going to say how many miles since my last puncture in case I jinx myself!!!
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2018, 11:36:36 am »
Statistically you are more likely to get a puncture to a rear tyre than a front tyre.
This is because the object is (generally) lying flat when the front hits it, it then gets thrown up and starts tumbling so there is a good chance of the pointy bit hitting the rear.

This is also more likely to happen in a rainstorm as water acts as a lubricant.

(I was told this many years ago during a tour of the Avon tyre factory)
566,000 lifetime miles I have never gotten a puncture in a front tire. Estimate about 25 rear tire punctures.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2018, 02:29:46 pm »
566,000 lifetime miles I have never gotten a puncture in a front tire. Estimate about 25 rear tire punctures.
In my thirteen years riding for the department, I only got one puncture in a front tire.  It was on an old school Kawasaki KZ1000.  I was clearing a crash on I-680 in Milpitas, CA, and luckily, it had gone flat before I started riding.  Not wanting to wait for a tow truck, I rode it with a flat front across town to the dealership for a new tire.  A little dodgy for sure, but I was young, impatient and stupid.   :nuts: :loco:
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2018, 03:24:21 pm »
Although I have never had a front puncture I did have a front blowout not to long after I got the Concours 14. Came over the crest of a blind right hander and there was a chunk of concrete the size of a softball. I ran right over it and the low pressure warning immediately came on. A big dent. I figured the rim and tire were toast so I just road the 5 miles home (rural back roads) at about 15 mph.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2018, 08:23:37 pm »
Them's Harley tires aren't they?


Not necessarily Pinkerbell.  I ran Elites on my 'Kawasaki Voyager XII'.  There are other MC brands that run them as well such GoldWings, Victories, etc...  I can go on if you wish.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2018, 05:06:26 am »
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2018, 06:10:55 am »
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2018, 08:28:06 am »
The diameter of the nail is 3mm.   I was angry after I pulled it out and didn't remember take a photo of it before removal.

Not that it matters, but while cleaning up today, I found the nail.  I wanted a pic in the tire, but this is all I have now.   Probably 300 more miles and there is still no air loss.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2018, 12:16:22 pm »
So...put it back in the tire & take a picture. What can go wrong?
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2018, 01:51:58 pm »
So...put it back in the tire & take a picture. What can go wrong?

:) I think I will pass on that.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2018, 01:54:41 pm »
You said earlier that that nail was around 3 mm, which is 1/8" in 'real money'. There is simply no way to punch that big of a hole into a tire and not have it leak after the part that pierced it is removed. So I am convinced that it never got to the inside of the tire at all. Which is by far the very best way to get a nail in any tire, any time.  Nice work, max.  ;) ;D

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Not that it matters, but while cleaning up today, I found the nail.  I wanted a pic in the tire, but this is all I have now.   Probably 300 more miles and there is still no air loss.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2018, 03:56:15 pm »
You said earlier that that nail was around 3 mm, which is 1/8" in 'real money'. There is simply no way to punch that big of a hole into a tire and not have it leak after the part that pierced it is removed. So I am convinced that it never got to the inside of the tire at all. Which is by far the very best way to get a nail in any tire, any time.  Nice work, max.  ;) ;D

Yeah, it was, apparently, completely in the tread, without ever puncturing through.  It had to be pretty close... although it was a very horizontal angle, it still was going in a long way.  It was pretty freaky, that is why I hate that I didn't get a photo to show just how strange it looked.  You will also notice where the "head" of the nail should be, it is missing, and bent, and worn way down.  The nail had a hard life and tried to make mine that way, too.
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Re: Finally got my first nail in a tire ever
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2018, 04:46:28 pm »
BTW- I have found that to be the hardest part of plugging tires, following the original path of the nail (or whatever it was) that punctured the tire. If the nail went in at, say, 30 degrees, and you are trying to punch the plug in perpendicular to the tire, 1) it will not go and 2) you have no idea what the puncture path was once the object was removed. It really does pay to pay attention to the angle of entry (yep, there is a joke in there too).

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Yeah, it was, apparently, completely in the tread, without ever puncturing through.  It had to be pretty close... although it was a very horizontal angle, it still was going in a long way.  It was pretty freaky, that is why I hate that I didn't get a photo to show just how strange it looked.  You will also notice where the "head" of the nail should be, it is missing, and bent, and worn way down.  The nail had a hard life and tried to make mine that way, too.
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