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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2012, 09:17:53 am »
Maybe you should instead ask why the gen 1 folks aren't buying. I'll start. I don't care for the way they look. I think the development process was handicapped by time constraints on the loaner bike which I understand. I also think also think a better looking and possibly better working product could have been developed if the drill option could have been explored. These comments are not a negative criticism of Ryan or MCE who I believe have been one of the most customer oriented companies I have had the pleasure of doing business with. I have the small rear bars from the earlier buy and was hoping for a product that was more to my taste. As always JMHO.


More than anything, I think we were spoiled by all the time and interaction on the first build.  Who really does that?  After that experience, MC probably just wanted to get this done.   It still beats the hell out of bathroom bars.......:)

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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2012, 10:09:18 am »
I think the biggest reason is that most of us have some sort of protection by now.  I already had the short bars on the back and have the GSG sliders in the center.  I'm going to remove those and get the Canyon Cages, though.
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #92 on: July 02, 2012, 08:15:14 am »
While I certainly do not want to dispute those that stated less of a design time, but inspite of that it would have been impractical to believe that MCE would have sold 2008-2009 bars more than 2010-2012. Even if they come out with a drilled option, that would be a higher risk of not getting the return of investment on the earlier models. This is apart from the fact they had limited availability of a bike. You have to realize that they are in business for profit and have to count their beans. I think they are correct in the assumption that the later model bikes outnumber the earlier model and that a good % of earlier model bikes already have some sort of protection. Some people may not want to toss that investment - unlike Jim. So, considering the constraints, I appreciate that come up with a good design that most people like AND giving us a good discount. Needless to say, it is going to be hard to please everyone.
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2012, 09:54:29 am »
More than anything, I think we were spoiled by all the time and interaction on the first build.  Who really does that?  After that experience, MC probably just wanted to get this done.   It still beats the hell out of bathroom bars.......:)

I'm beginning to wonder if I've set a dangerous precedent...

I think the biggest reason is that most of us have some sort of protection by now.  I already had the short bars on the back and have the GSG sliders in the center.  I'm going to remove those and get the Canyon Cages, though.

Thanks, Jim! To me, that really says something about what the community thinks about our new Canyon Cages! People are willing to replace current protection in order to use our guards.  ;D I'd be lying if I said that didn't make me feel good!

While I certainly do not want to dispute those that stated less of a design time, but inspite of that it would have been impractical to believe that MCE would have sold 2008-2009 bars more than 2010-2012. Even if they come out with a drilled option, that would be a higher risk of not getting the return of investment on the earlier models. This is apart from the fact they had limited availability of a bike. You have to realize that they are in business for profit and have to count their beans. I think they are correct in the assumption that the later model bikes outnumber the earlier model and that a good % of earlier model bikes already have some sort of protection. Some people may not want to toss that investment - unlike Jim. So, considering the constraints, I appreciate that come up with a good design that most people like AND giving us a good discount. Needless to say, it is going to be hard to please everyone.

It is definitely difficult to please everyone. All you can do is your absolute best and hope people realize and appreciate it. There's always going to be someone out there with something negative to say, unfortunately. I think we've done a good job in listening to the community and creating a product that most of you like and that protects the bike well at a very reasonable cost, especially compared to protection offered by other companies. Thank you for being one of the people who realize and appreciate the hard work we've put in to making a product specifically for YOU guys!
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2012, 03:57:47 pm »
Total newbie blunder, this was posted on the Gen 2 Group Buy thread 'cause I wasn't paying attention. Sigh. Posted it originally on 6/26/12. So now it is here where it should be...

MC Enterprises is just a few miles from where I live so I rode over today and plunked down money for Canyon Cages. Got to meet Ryan, the one who watches and interacts with the forum, sets up these group buys, etc. Also got the cooks tour from Mike, the CEO and janitor. Some interesting equipment in the manufacturing area. I was a machinist and manufacturing engineer for years before I opened up my bicycle shop (don't tell my mom, she still thinks I'm playin' piano down at the cat house). The machine that twists the square stock is a homemade job. The motor started out life as the power to open concrete doors to missile silos and the rest was a threading machine. Several screw machines from the 1940s. A very clean and very big polishing room that was in full swing, hard to keep the walls white in a polishing room but theirs were. Several older bikes in the lobby from the 1960s and 1970s. My favorite was a Kawasaki H2 Mack IV, that one took me back. All in all a very nice facility and a great crew.

Ryan thinks our group buy will reach the 25% discount level. Way to go all you 2008 & 2009 owners.

Ryan also responded and was nice enough not to call me out on being a dummy:

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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #95 on: July 05, 2012, 09:54:27 am »
Thanks again for the compliments, Slideways! Just to update everyone, we're currently at 28 orders so we're really close to the maximum discount!

UPDATE: 29 orders!
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2012, 12:54:03 pm »
I think the reason for the slow orders on Gen1 bars is due to the group buy of the bathroom bars just prior to the canyon cages coming on the scene. The numbers for bathroom bars which Ryan has probably tells the story best.  JP
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2012, 05:45:04 pm »
Can someone provide the approximate weight of the front bars?  rear bars?  does the discount apply to front and rear?

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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2012, 06:58:05 pm »
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Can someone provide the approximate weight of the front bars?  rear bars?  does the discount apply to front and rear?

thanks,

dave

Awww, man! I would have been able to answer that if this was posted a bit earlier and I was still in the office. If someone else hasn't mounted their bars and can weigh them, that'd be awesome. Otherwise we'll have to wait til Monday when I have a chance to weigh the Canyon Cage and Saddle Bag Guards at work. I want to say the Canyon Cage is probably 12-14lbs total whereas the Saddle Bag Guards are probably 5-7lbs total. These are just my guesstimations, though. I can tell you for sure, though, that the discount does apply to both the front and rear guards if you purchase them during the group buy.
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2012, 09:10:40 pm »
Can someone provide the approximate weight of the front bars?

I can say that the box my gen2 front canyons came in said they were 20 pounds.  I did not weight them.
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #100 on: July 06, 2012, 11:02:12 am »
thanks Ryan and MAX
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2012, 02:35:27 pm »
Looks like we only need one more sell to get the full discount. Who wants to be the hero?

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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2012, 03:08:56 pm »
thanks Ryan and MAX

You're welcome!

Looks like we only need one more sell to get the full discount. Who wants to be the hero?

Yep, only one more to go!
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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2012, 04:00:01 pm »
As Nathan Hale would have said if the Concours existed during his time....

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Re: MCE Gen. 1 Canyon Cage Group Buy Through July 19th!
« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2012, 04:38:50 am »
Hey Ryan,

Will you be including a washer in the Gen 1 kits so that we won't have to worry about messing up the powder coat on the mounts like the Gen 2s?
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