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Offline rcannon409

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2012, 04:44:39 pm »
The guy I ride with and I both have Concours and Ninja 1000's.  Your Concours is about to get very lonely.  We have to force ourselves to ride the Concours every so often except for our annual trips.

And yes, the insurance is goofy.  Geico is the same btw.  I don't carry collision on mine.




I think your right.  I LOVE my 14 for two up work and its damn good for single up as well.  Scary fast in a tight canyon.  Still, its a compromise....a damn good one at that, but heres my thoughts....

The c14 feels one size too large when in town.  Not that it wont do it, cause it will.  Just one size too large. But perfect for the freeway.  I wanted something for local riding, the under 100 mile trips.  I'll use th ec14 for long range stuff or days when I need to carry a lot. Plus, I'm carrying my wife and it will be easy to keep the tires and such in perfect condition.

Kawi SHOULD make a new c10, actually, based on the ninja 1000.  I dont think it would compete with either if they kept the weight in the high 500 range.  Based on the number of ninja 1000's for sale, they are selling well.  There are 2 2012's left in  Utah..both black, gray, non abs.  Kawasaki has 1 green and black in the warehouse..thats it.


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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2012, 04:46:19 pm »
Looks like a Z06 to me.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2012, 07:38:20 pm »
So, I got the first 50 miles out of the way. I really like the bike.  BUT, its no c 14.   I believe my c14 with files removed and the pcv added is faster.  Its certainly smoother.   Low end torque is very good.   Its nto very smooth, although that coudl change as break-in happens.  Smooth enough, but those who say the c14 is rough woudl hate it.

The little windshield is good, though.  It smooths the air more so than blocking it.  Heres the first picture.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2012, 08:12:19 pm »
Love the color, now get rid of the mud flap and go ride!   ;)
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Offline rcannon409

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2012, 08:14:17 pm »
Yea, that flap sucks. I removed the reflectors, but my cordless dremel was dead...that flap...I did nto see a way to cut it and make it look decent, so I ordered  a muzzy's.
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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2012, 12:16:43 am »
How does the Ninja handlebar position compare to the C14?
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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2012, 01:26:10 am »
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- how's the Z1000's engine ? Buzzy ? Smooth ?

- still being broken in ?

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2012, 01:42:26 am »
I can offer a very limited opinion about how the C14 and the ninja 1000 compare because I drove it a few times when toying with the idea of getting rid of my 1400GTR and getting something lighter without loosing much in the sense of performance.
First things first: the 1400 engine has 2 balance shafts, the 1000 has 1, and it shows. Whereas my 1400 had that dreadful buzz at 4500 rpm (that I got rid off with the washer trick on the handlebar weights), the 1000 buzzes all over the place. I-DO-NOT-LIKE-IT. On the other hand, that's about all that I can critizise from that bike. Engine response seems better than that of the 1400, without the stupid hesitation at low revs, and the weight difference and gearing make up for the disadvantage in torque. Comfort wise I can't really authoritatively comment, but it looked to me in a different (lower) league than the Concours. Not bad, just not the kind of bike I'd choose to cover serious mileage (>500 miles in one go).
A different bike and, for somebody who travels less than I do, definitely the better option. I'd recommend it without reservations.
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Offline rcannon409

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2012, 01:51:45 am »
How does the Ninja handlebar position compare to the C14?

The bar position is more leaned forward, but not enough to be uncomfortable like the ss bikes I've ridden.  The pegs are also higher, and further back, but comfortable.  The bars do sit closer than the c14 bars and do not have the odd angle at the end.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2012, 04:59:13 am »
Just bought a 2011 Ninja 1000 and its been fun so far. The riding position is comfortable for me but the thing is pretty vibey. Its geared a bit low but it pulls good in any gear and there's not a lot of need to be shifting all the time. Its a very nimble machine and my pick when the wife isn't with me.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2012, 10:40:10 am »
Kaw kept the chain adjusters first found on the old 1984 Ninja 900. They look great and are easy to use.

Very nice.
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Offline rcannon409

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2012, 06:16:15 pm »
Fretka, if I'm not mistaken, I can use the adjusters as a ride height adjust, right?  Shifting them 180 degrees should be higher, but the same tension????

The engine is not smooth, but not v twin rough either.  Its nto bad, actually.  I love the low end torque, though.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2012, 07:06:17 pm »
Congrats Roland! Now starts the slight guilt feelings when one bike gets used more than the other!
Are you gonna tune it now that you have fuel injection mapping figured out?

And Jim..... that 'vette lurking over in the corner of the garage looks like it might be some serious "kit".

Is it a Z06 or ZR-1?

Fretka

It is a Z06 that I had for three and half years.  It kills me to say this, but I sold it about a week after I took that picture. It was a weekend car, and after owning six Corvettes in the past ten years I decided it was time to take the money and invest in something that would grow for my retirement (about seven years away).  I love the car, but just decided it was time.  I made myself feel a little better by trading my then daily driver for a new BMW 550 M-Sport.  Still hard to think about the Corvette though.
Jim
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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2012, 07:09:15 pm »
So, I got the first 50 miles out of the way. I really like the bike.  BUT, its no c 14.   I believe my c14 with files removed and the pcv added is faster.  Its certainly smoother.   Low end torque is very good.   Its nto very smooth, although that coudl change as break-in happens.  Smooth enough, but those who say the c14 is rough woudl hate it.

The little windshield is good, though.  It smooths the air more so than blocking it.  Heres the first picture.

I should have mentioned, my Ninja 1000 has a full Akrapovik and PCV.  It dynod at  122 hp stock and now 140.  I don't think your Concours will stay with mine.
Jim
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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2012, 07:12:22 pm »
How does the Ninja handlebar position compare to the C14?

I'm not sure if rcannon has risers on his Concours or not.  I can tell you absolutely, both being stock, that the reach to the bars is noticeably further on the Concours.  I'm always surprised by that when I get on the Concours.  Also, your hands will not go as numb on the Ninja 1000.  BTW, the guy I ride with who also has both bikes completely agrees with my comments here.  The Ninja actually has better ergos for me than the Concours.  Obviously it will vary by rider.
Jim
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2011 Ninja 1000, 2013 BMW 1600 GT, 2012 Ducati Panigale