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Offline rcannon409

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2012, 07:43:51 am »
My Concours is a 2008 abs model.  Stock, except for the fly removal and LeoVince slip on. PCV as well, but nothing serious.  I almost posted that I wished my Ninja had abs, but hate to open that can of worms.  I know Kawasaki brought them in this year with abs, but I never saw one.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2012, 08:38:54 am »
My Concours is a 2008 abs model.  Stock, except for the fly removal and LeoVince slip on. PCV as well, but nothing serious.  I almost posted that I wished my Ninja had abs, but hate to open that can of worms.  I know Kawasaki brought them in this year with abs, but I never saw one.

OK.  I have been wondering if anyone with a 10 or newer Concours had a PCV on it (because of the "eco" mode on the newer ones).

I agonized over whether to get an ABS or not as I swore I would never buy another bike without it.  But I liked the 2011 black ones and there were plenty of them available, and I rationalized that I mainly care about ABS in the rain and would seldom ride the Ninja in the rain.  So much for that, in the past two weeks I've ridden it twice in the rain. 
Jim
2010 Concours - Sold Feb 2013
Current bikes....
2011 Ninja 1000, 2013 BMW 1600 GT, 2012 Ducati Panigale

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2012, 12:27:40 pm »
OK.  I have been wondering if anyone with a 10 or newer Concours had a PCV on it (because of the "eco" mode on the newer ones).

I agonized over whether to get an ABS or not as I swore I would never buy another bike without it.  But I liked the 2011 black ones and there were plenty of them available, and I rationalized that I mainly care about ABS in the rain and would seldom ride the Ninja in the rain.  So much for that, in the past two weeks I've ridden it twice in the rain.

LOL...I could have made this post.  Plus, I was caught in the rain this morning...on the non abs Ninja.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2012, 04:18:38 pm »
LOL...I could have made this post.  Plus, I was caught in the rain this morning...on the non abs Ninja.

There is a good chance I'll get caught in the rain again tomorrow.  I have not ridden the bike since July 4th (yeah,  whopping 9 days) and I'm having withdrawals.  8)
Jim
2010 Concours - Sold Feb 2013
Current bikes....
2011 Ninja 1000, 2013 BMW 1600 GT, 2012 Ducati Panigale

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2012, 07:26:21 pm »
Its not rained here for at least 6 weeks.  The last week was over 100.   I buy the bike.   I was nto abel to ride it home, even, since I was on call at work.

I did ride 50 miles total, but it was tough to find the time.  Then my 8 year old granddaughter moved in with us...which is wonderful and this has truly been my dream come true.   So no complaints about not riding today.  The instant my wife made it home today, it started to rain, and is supposed to for the next few days.  So, since no riding, I decided to install the Muzzy fender eliminator

I installed my Muzzy fender eliminator tonight and it looks much better and is a well made part.  However, wire routing was a nightmare. The subfram eon the Ninja 1000 is a work of art.  I've never seen a subframe with this much technology in it.  It reminds me of a Cannondale bicycle frame in quality.

Its a cast piece and every square inch of it has been utilized.  There's even a cast hollow area to hold the tool kit and it woudl even hold extra tools.  A person coudl probably fit two 12 oz sodas in there as well as the toolkit.  I had mine put together by the time I thought of it, but heres a picture of one.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-1000-ZX1000-Rear-sub-frame-subframe-under-seat-section-/271008393228?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f195be80c&vxp=mtr

My granddaughter does like the ninja.  She bugged me all day to "paint my fingernails" since she said she had an idea for a design. I let her do one finger as it was already smashed and purple....


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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2012, 07:55:59 pm »
Its not rained here for at least 6 weeks.  The last week was over 100.   I buy the bike.   I was nto abel to ride it home, even, since I was on call at work.

I did ride 50 miles total, but it was tough to find the time.  Then my 8 year old granddaughter moved in with us...which is wonderful and this has truly been my dream come true.   So no complaints about not riding today.  The instant my wife made it home today, it started to rain, and is supposed to for the next few days.  So, since no riding, I decided to install the Muzzy fender eliminator

I installed my Muzzy fender eliminator tonight and it looks much better and is a well made part.  However, wire routing was a nightmare. The subfram eon the Ninja 1000 is a work of art.  I've never seen a subframe with this much technology in it.  It reminds me of a Cannondale bicycle frame in quality.

Its a cast piece and every square inch of it has been utilized.  There's even a cast hollow area to hold the tool kit and it woudl even hold extra tools.  A person coudl probably fit two 12 oz sodas in there as well as the toolkit.  I had mine put together by the time I thought of it, but heres a picture of one.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-1000-ZX1000-Rear-sub-frame-subframe-under-seat-section-/271008393228?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f195be80c&vxp=mtr

My granddaughter does like the ninja.  She bugged me all day to "paint my fingernails" since she said she had an idea for a design. I let her do one finger as it was already smashed and purple....


You'd be amazed at what I keep under there.  Also, under the seat is room for a tire repair kit.  I just be sure I have an allen wrench in the tool kit to take the seat off.  I also have my Power Commander and Auto tune under the seat. I have not gotten around to the fender eliminator yet.  In case you have any questions, here are the mods I have done to mine...

Akrapovik Full Race Exhaust
BMC air filter element
Power Commander (PCV)
PCV Auto Tune module
Ivans PAIR block off plate
Ivans servo eliminator
    Here is a Link to the Ivans stuff..  http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/2010z1000.htm
Sargent seat
Heal Tech Gear indicator (Gipro)
Radar Detector & Marc Parnes LEDs for the Radar Detector
Kawasaki Rear Cowl (replaces rear seat)
Powerlet for heated jacket liner

I think that's all.  I plan to do the fender eliminator and smoked wind screen and probably heated grips for winter
Jim
2010 Concours - Sold Feb 2013
Current bikes....
2011 Ninja 1000, 2013 BMW 1600 GT, 2012 Ducati Panigale

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2012, 08:49:39 pm »
I dont think I mentioned this about the rebate, though. I would have loved the rebate, BUT Kawasaki is offering 0 down, zero percent, for 60 months and the ninja 1000 and c14 both qualify.

JJS, thats a nice list of mods...very cool stuff, for sure.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2012, 05:25:50 pm »
I have not ridden a Concours set up like yours, but I cannot even fathom that the Concours could have more response than the Ninja.  No need talking about how much torque there is because that is only a part of it.  Lighter weight and gearing make up a huge amount of why the Ninja is more responsive.  I have not tried it, but I would bet money that in a 60mph roll on, my Ninja (even stock) would pull away from the Concours in sixth gear even if I downshifted the Concours to fourth.  The guy I ride with agrees.   I would not think that any mods to the Concours short of a turbo would make up the difference. 

It's a nice conversation to have between the two bikes though, isn't it  :chugbeer:

Ninja 1000 1/4 mile time 10.81
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/156/11124/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Kawasaki-Ninja-1000-Comparison.aspx

THis one says 11.3  ???
http://www.sportrider.com/performance_numbers/146_motorcycle_performance_numbers/kawasaki.html

Seems most cycle magazines test the Connie around 10.78
2011 Concours 14
2011 ZX1000GBF Ninja. Died Dec. 1st, 2012
2012 ZX1000HBF Ninja.

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Re: Ninja 1000
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2012, 04:17:16 pm »
I'm not sure about overall SPEED between the two bikes.  Compared to the Ninja, the c14 throttle cable feels like its made of rubber...literally, it does.  The response is there, just  a little muted.

The Ninja feels like a well tuned two stroke, in comparison.  Also, where the c14 pulls smooth (but hard)  the Ninja pulls hard down low, then goes into warp speed at 6000. Its very fun to play with. 

The gear ratios are very different as well.  On the c14 a person can be on the freeway, 65 mph, and realize your in 4th gear. That wont happen on the Ninja as the ratios are lower, and much closer together.

I know the bikes get compared a lot, and I think thats because the Ninja does not fit well into any class.  Its not a full on supersport, yet not exactly a sport tourer either.  The c14 is a tourer in overall size, yet has a sporty feel about it that does not fit the touring category.