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Offline ZG

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 04:57:21 pm »
Did you try the "K-rock" trick yet?

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 05:18:24 pm »
On the image I posted showing how the FOB works, it mentions above that about possibilites of intereference from other radio sources (seeing as your batter checks out).  Try moving the bike and see if that helps.
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 05:24:02 pm »
Did you try the "K-rock" trick yet?

Yes. No help

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 05:26:53 pm »
On the image I posted showing how the FOB works, it mentions above that about possibilites of intereference from other radio sources (seeing as your batter checks out).  Try moving the bike and see if that helps.

I had to push it a half mile this mornin to get it indoors. The inability to turn the key persisted.

I am not so pleased with this Kawi that I chose for its reliability. It spend 3 weeks in the shop getting the transmission rebuilt (1,500 miles on it before gear 4 failed), and now this... With 2,300 miles.

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 05:34:58 pm »
I'm just now realizing, aren't you the same one that bought both the new C14 and the R1200RT just like a month ago? And then never posted any pics of either even after many said they didn't believe you??
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong or have you confused with someone else and I'll gladly remove my post, apologize, and eat crow, but this is starting to sound a little fishy to me for some reason...  :-\

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5675.msg67716#msg67716
 

Anyone else think we're maybe getting played here with this thread?  :-\

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2012, 05:50:28 pm »
I'm just now realizing, aren't you the same one that bought both the new C14 and the R1200RT just like a month ago? And then never posted any pics of either even after many said they didn't believe you??
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong or have you confused with someone else and I'll gladly remove my post, apologize, and eat crow, but this is starting to sound a little fishy to me for some reason...  :-\

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5675.msg67716#msg67716
 

Anyone else think we're maybe getting played here with this thread?  :-\


Thanks for this post.
Please, if you have nothing helpful to contribute, then please contribute nothing. Anyone having something helpful for me to hopefully get out of this predicament, please feel free to post.

Thanks,

Kurt

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 06:20:25 pm »
Gents, if you have nothing useful to post then post nothing at all... Need I say more?
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 06:28:47 pm »
I thought I worded that very PC and even admitted that if I was wrong I apologize in advance TC...
 
But ok.  :-X

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2012, 06:47:57 pm »
I thought I worded that very PC and even admitted that if I was wrong I apologize in advance TC...
 
But ok.  :-X

Matters not how PC you worded your accusations as all this person has asked for is help.
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 06:54:57 pm »
I thought it was a valid question considering his last thread and the fact that this is without a doubt the most spirited issue to start a riot..........hopefully he is a genuine member but I grew skeptical after the disappearing act.  So who knows where the connector is to reset the switch?

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2012, 07:11:14 pm »
You may have the 'stuck KiPass activation switch' problem. If  there is voltage at the battery (or anywhere else on the bike) and absolutely nothing happens when you press the key down, the switch might be stuck.

Take off the top / left side fairing cover- the black one just under the left handlebar. Under that cover is a wiring harness inside a rubber boot- find the dark gray, eight- pin connector inside that boot and disconnect it. Reconnect it and if the dash lights up, you have a stuck activation switch. If there is a valid fob within range, and the dash lights when you reconnect that connector, turn the key to 'on' as soon as you plug it back in- you will only have something like 5 seconds or so. Then start the bike normally. You will have to break that connector and reconnect it each time you want to start the bike until you have the ignition switch assembly fixed at a Kawasaki dealer but that work- around WILL work to get the bike running as long as your problem is a stuck activation switch.

Best of luck and let us know how that works out. If you still have a problem post up again and I am sure someone will help you out. I will check back in later tonight and see if you posted anything else.

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No luck. I tried the dead battery in fob suggestions with no results. Anyhow, this bike is a 2011 and just a few months old. I couldn't imagine the fob battery being out.

Today I tracked down a voltmeter and the battery voltage measured 12.6 volts. So seems that the battery is ok.

I am trying to figure out towing options. Nearest dealer is probably 350-400 miles away in San Diego. I dont think theres a dealer in Ensenada.

What a pain in the butt. Any other suggestions before I spend a few thousand on towing (!)?
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2012, 07:51:49 pm »
Thanks for the refresher training Brian.  I needed that.

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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2012, 08:59:59 pm »
Looks like your closest dealer is in Tijuana:
Velomoto
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Which dealer did the transmission repair?  Was it the same dealer that you bought the bike from?  Maybe they could contact Velomoto as see if they could help you out with the towing.  Have you contacted Kawasaki customer service?  They might be able to help you, either to work through the problem or to help arrange or pay for towing.  FWIW, the C14 is not sold in Mexico, so the service department in Tijuana will likely be unfamiliar with the problem.
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2012, 09:33:21 pm »
I have the fob in my pocket and when i press down nothing happens. And i cant turn the key thing to the right. The red light flashes.
What's going on and how can i start It?

No luck. I tried the dead battery in fob suggestions with no results. Anyhow, this bike is a 2011 and just a few months old. I couldn't imagine the fob battery being out.
Today I tracked down a voltmeter and the battery voltage measured 12.6 volts. So seems that the battery is ok.
I am trying to figure out towing options. Nearest dealer is probably 350-400 miles away in San Diego. I dont think theres a dealer in Ensenada.
What a pain in the butt. Any other suggestions before I spend a few thousand on towing (!)?

I had this happen to me 1700 miles from home, while in Sturgis, last Sept.
The only thing that sounds different, is I don't remember the red light flashing. I had no voltage meter with me to check voltage, but even if it reads 12+ volts, that's with no load, under load it might drop below usable voltage, if it's a voltage problem.
I managed to get my bike started after what I believe was 30,000 depressions of the stove pipe, over a three hour period.
I tried tapping the switch housing, but that didn't seem to work, or I wasn't making contact with the sweet spot that frees up the momentary switch.
After getting home and having my unit, duplicate my Sturgis experience, I believe I found a better way of tapping or beating on the housing. It seemed if I turned the handlebars to the left, a larger void between the fairing and switch, for tapping the housing was created. My unit seemed to respond immediately to banging, by striking under the KiPass tit and to the left(between where the "on and off" graphics are displayed.)
There's a solenoid on the right side of the housing. That's what is preventing you from being able to turn the switch. There's a finger on it, that engages into one of three slots, until power to the solenoid lifts the finger. That won't happen if KiPass isn't working.
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The best suggestion I can offer, if you feel KiPass is the culprit, keep tapping the housing, as I described, and also keep depressing the stove pipe key, up & down and hopefully the switch will free up, and the dash will come to life.
I would try my possible solution and if it fails, then Brians. Spending mega dollars for a international tow would really suck.
Brian hooked me up with a great Rhode Island dealer, who did the heavier spring upgrade, and I haven't had an occurrence since then.
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Re: Cant get key to turn
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2012, 09:40:25 pm »
Did you try the "K-rock" trick yet?

I would be shocked if that worked on a 2011.
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